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Old May 18, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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so I have a question about the balance shafts. is it worth it to go with the Ams kit or should I just leave the stock boys in.
I'm kind of on a budget so if I can save some money there I will but I definitely don't want to skip out on anything on this build so any input would be appreciated. thanks!
Ya know I have wondered that myself over the years. I can see where the AMS ones have there use, but the other kits you can get from everywhere else have done the job over the years for a long time. Just make sure that you monitor your oil pressure if you do the stubby ones not the AMS ones being it goes up a ton. My talon will bury the 130 psi guage I have before 3k rpms and thats not good. So in order to fix that there is a pressure relief valve in the oil filter housing you can port out a little bit to fix that. With the evo I am not sure but I'll be pretty sure its the same kinda thing that happens.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Ya know I have wondered that myself over the years. I can see where the AMS ones have there use, but the other kits you can get from everywhere else have done the job over the years for a long time. Just make sure that you monitor your oil pressure if you do the stubby ones not the AMS ones being it goes up a ton. My talon will bury the 130 psi guage I have before 3k rpms and thats not good. So in order to fix that there is a pressure relief valve in the oil filter housing you can port out a little bit to fix that. With the evo I am not sure but I'll be pretty sure its the same kinda thing that happens.
thanks, ill make sure i take that into consideration. Ill be keepin a close eye on this car once its done like havin a teenage daughter. I want to make sure everything goes right, idk what id do if i had to tear it down again lol
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Old May 18, 2012 | 04:52 PM
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Well its not a matter of tearing it back down it would be just the oil filter housing. I mean a simple guage install to check it for a while is no big deal but with that much pressure your gonna start hurting things in the motor and I'm sure you don't want that. Now with the AMS kit I am not sure what to expect. I was looking into those as well when I decide to build, but I am not sure how they affect pressure. If I had to guess I would say it would keep the pressure pretty close to stock being there is more to them then just a stubby shaft and it looks to be you do not turn the bearing 180 degrees to block off that passage. I could be wrong, but maybe someone who has them in their motor can chime in.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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Well its not a matter of tearing it back down it would be just the oil filter housing. I mean a simple guage install to check it for a while is no big deal but with that much pressure your gonna start hurting things in the motor and I'm sure you don't want that. Now with the AMS kit I am not sure what to expect. I was looking into those as well when I decide to build, but I am not sure how they affect pressure. If I had to guess I would say it would keep the pressure pretty close to stock being there is more to them then just a stubby shaft and it looks to be you do not turn the bearing 180 degrees to block off that passage. I could be wrong, but maybe someone who has them in their motor can chime in.
yeah i didnt mean with an oil issue im just more worried about something catastrophic happening. ive built numerous engines before but you never know, thats why im just taking things slow and not cutting any corners.

But i do have gauges already set up in the car so i'll be monitoring everything very closely.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 05:04 PM
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With the process I have seen I think you will be ok. After looking at the AMS balance shafts again I think they will be just like stock. They come with new bearings and what nots which would lead me to believe they go in just like stock and everything spins like it should and the oil port doesn't get covered up. I would like to see the install instructions to verify that but I think you would be ok.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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thanks! if i decide to go that route ill make sure i throw some pictures up here for the install.
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thanks! if i decide to go that route ill make sure i throw some pictures up here for the install.
You better I'm sick right now and car **** makes me feel better
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Old May 18, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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You better I'm sick right now and car **** makes me feel better
good to know someone else shares the same ideas for medicine as me!
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Old May 19, 2012 | 10:01 AM
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Awsome what is the time frame to have everything in one spot ready to be assembled?
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Old May 19, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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Awsome what is the time frame to have everything in one spot ready to be assembled?
Right now i'm lookin at about a month or so. Once the fluidampr gets to the house the rotating assembly is going out to be balanced.

The rest of the parts are being shipped right now so should arrive while the block's in the machine shop.

When I get everything back and check it all over and over and over again, the assembly will begin.

Looks like i'm selling my firebird to fund this build
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Old May 21, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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sad story. You'll love your evo though.
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Right now i'm lookin at about a month or so. Once the fluidampr gets to the house the rotating assembly is going out to be balanced.

The rest of the parts are being shipped right now so should arrive while the block's in the machine shop.

When I get everything back and check it all over and over and over again, the assembly will begin.

Looks like i'm selling my firebird to fund this build

Nooooo sell something else plasma, sperm, blood not the f body.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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yeah well that's my third f body, they come and go. it's sad cus I put so much time and money into it but hey thats the hobby...
I'm actually trading it for a 3000gt and a grand on top. i got a pretty good deal from a fellow marine
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got some parts back from Wicked Powdercoating today! Everything came out really nice, they did a great job with awesome pricing.
I'm thinking about getting some green takata harnesses with a green harness bar and powdercoating my rims candy lime green. Well see how it all comes together.
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