View Poll Results: Should MP5 be banned?
Yes



47
41.59%
No



49
43.36%
Who is MP5??? No opinion.



17
15.04%
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Whether you Love 'em or Hate 'em Should Mp5 be banned?
Just to back up my claim that MP5 is helpful....here are quotes from how he helped me out in the Turbo XS Utec forum...and yes these are quotes!!!
"Dont flatter yourself Nathan. Like Ive said before the UTEC will be every bit of serious of tooning tool as the Xede. If those knock attenuations are done right just as safe too. At this point we are looking at the extra features involved and the Xede and Utec both will controll waterspray/ N2) have WB and Datalogging/ Muti maps (Utec will have a few more) /Launch control and flatshift/ the UTEC will have a nifty gameboy interface and a graphing funtion.
The most pertainant question is what is TXS going to do to address the boost cut in the midrange and rev limits? Are they going to have a propietary flash to go along with the UTEC or are they going to trim a good amount of TQ/HP tuning around the cuts?"
and then.....
"Good summary I cant wait for a more indepth. About the timing control The Xedes is static also But an offset of the factory curve witch to me simplifies things significantly. I dont see an advantage of not having an offset as it can lead to way off base timing in certain zones.
Nathan You know what Im talking about with knock attenuation. Users should be given a fairly accurate knock adjustment/ attenuation/whatever you want to lable it as so it would be very hard to for a car to be driving around actually knocking when the user is unknowledgeable about knock control and expecting to be safe with the UTEC. Knock control is professional tuner stuff and not for street tuners (myself included). I had a major headach trying to dial my wrx one in and 50K later #4 was gone (I am not blaming it on the UTEC I take full responsibility in my ignorance at the time but unfortunately it was a hard subject to grasp and coincidentally there were a ton of scrap EJ20s)
Nathan Tooning was a joke it was put there on purpose- As in user "toonable"
"
Here is a link if you want his words taken into complete context...that way you can see what was being asked and why he answered how he did...
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...threadid=69353
MP5 Helped me out when others were either Vague or just didn't know. All I can say is THANK YOU MP5
(if you can read this! LOL) Add to that....this was all in the forum OTHER then Vishnu...now how can you say he is at all biased??? He helped me out on a product he does not own and is sold by another company other then Vishnu....I don't see this as putting things down by other companies. Of course like I have stated before...I don't know the WHOLE story.
"Dont flatter yourself Nathan. Like Ive said before the UTEC will be every bit of serious of tooning tool as the Xede. If those knock attenuations are done right just as safe too. At this point we are looking at the extra features involved and the Xede and Utec both will controll waterspray/ N2) have WB and Datalogging/ Muti maps (Utec will have a few more) /Launch control and flatshift/ the UTEC will have a nifty gameboy interface and a graphing funtion.
The most pertainant question is what is TXS going to do to address the boost cut in the midrange and rev limits? Are they going to have a propietary flash to go along with the UTEC or are they going to trim a good amount of TQ/HP tuning around the cuts?"
and then.....
"Good summary I cant wait for a more indepth. About the timing control The Xedes is static also But an offset of the factory curve witch to me simplifies things significantly. I dont see an advantage of not having an offset as it can lead to way off base timing in certain zones.
Nathan You know what Im talking about with knock attenuation. Users should be given a fairly accurate knock adjustment/ attenuation/whatever you want to lable it as so it would be very hard to for a car to be driving around actually knocking when the user is unknowledgeable about knock control and expecting to be safe with the UTEC. Knock control is professional tuner stuff and not for street tuners (myself included). I had a major headach trying to dial my wrx one in and 50K later #4 was gone (I am not blaming it on the UTEC I take full responsibility in my ignorance at the time but unfortunately it was a hard subject to grasp and coincidentally there were a ton of scrap EJ20s)
Nathan Tooning was a joke it was put there on purpose- As in user "toonable"
"Here is a link if you want his words taken into complete context...that way you can see what was being asked and why he answered how he did...
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...threadid=69353
MP5 Helped me out when others were either Vague or just didn't know. All I can say is THANK YOU MP5
(if you can read this! LOL) Add to that....this was all in the forum OTHER then Vishnu...now how can you say he is at all biased??? He helped me out on a product he does not own and is sold by another company other then Vishnu....I don't see this as putting things down by other companies. Of course like I have stated before...I don't know the WHOLE story.
Last edited by zupber4930; Mar 11, 2004 at 09:38 AM.
Maybe he gets a bit carried away at times, but he is entertaining! I personally would like to see MP5 back on the forum. He has offer a lot of good insite even if he is a bit brash at times. I for one am looking forward to meeting him this weekend at the Vishnu dyno day here in Dallas. I do hope that all of this can be worked out.
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From: Between the Blue and the Sand
Originally posted by gt40
Banning mp5 after allowing al back because he offered money for a vendor forum is the most hypocritical thing I have seen in a long time.
This place is becoming less useful by the day...
Banning mp5 after allowing al back because he offered money for a vendor forum is the most hypocritical thing I have seen in a long time.
This place is becoming less useful by the day...
Remember, Al was brought back because having him here as an official place to get your Dynoflash questions answered was of greater good to the Evom community. His money had nothing to do with it and was only secondary when he decided he still wanted to be an site Vendor here.
So unless MP5 becomes an employee of Vishnu, or Mark thinks that it is of greater good to the community to have MP5 around, I doubt he will be posting here freely again. And if he does get to post here again, I doubt he will be allowed to post outside of the Vishnu forum.
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From: Between the Blue and the Sand
Originally posted by Dragon41673
...He's a good guy in my book and I really don't think he should be banned.
...He's a good guy in my book and I really don't think he should be banned.
SC~
Originally posted by Secret Chimp
Please keep in perspective the fact that 'being a good guy' has nothing to do with this. It has everything to do with how a person behaves on this forum as a whole. 1 good tech post for every 5-10 OT/flaming/inappropriate posts does not make for a good forum member, even if he is a good guy in person.
SC~
Please keep in perspective the fact that 'being a good guy' has nothing to do with this. It has everything to do with how a person behaves on this forum as a whole. 1 good tech post for every 5-10 OT/flaming/inappropriate posts does not make for a good forum member, even if he is a good guy in person.
SC~
Personally I dont' like MP5 much.... but I voted to NOT ban him. The less outspoken members we have the more boring this site becomes and the more likely I am to stop comming. Banning Al was a mistake, and banning MP5 would also be a mistake.
Keith
Keith
Originally posted by Noize
Eric Lyublinski is originally from another country. All you grammar hammers need to give him a break!
Eric Lyublinski is originally from another country. All you grammar hammers need to give him a break!
Originally posted by silverEVO8
Hey, I'm from another country and I don't cop out on that excuse... Hell, I think the Eric is just very excited with the argument and can't type straight because he's angry
Hey, I'm from another country and I don't cop out on that excuse... Hell, I think the Eric is just very excited with the argument and can't type straight because he's angry
And dude if your from a engish speaking country it does not count.
Well because of work I'm in and out with these threads. I got a nice little email when someone posts somthing and get the link and go right to it.
Sorry everyone for my poor spelling and lack of proof reading.
Now can we get off this topic. Seth made it out like I'm fresh of the boat.
Eric
Originally posted by Eric Lyublinsky
I Type 70 words per min. What your excuse?
And dude if your from a engish speaking country it does not count.
Well because of work I'm in and out with these threads. I got a nice little email when someone posts somthing and get the link and go right to it.
Sorry everyone for my poor spelling and lack of proof reading.
Now can we get off this topic. Seth made it out like I'm fresh of the boat.
Eric
I Type 70 words per min. What your excuse?
And dude if your from a engish speaking country it does not count.
Well because of work I'm in and out with these threads. I got a nice little email when someone posts somthing and get the link and go right to it.
Sorry everyone for my poor spelling and lack of proof reading.
Now can we get off this topic. Seth made it out like I'm fresh of the boat.
Eric
BTW it's "from AN english"
So ummmm....just to be clear...we are all off of a boat...remember columbus?
LOLEric...you know I am just messin with ya! Your awesome bro!
So how long until this decision on MP5 will be handed down? I'm pretty curious about this!!!
no we don't neet mods on this board
it took exactly 10 mins for us to go from "should MP5 be banned" to "when did Eric got off the boat"
please keep this on topic guys. so far it has been a very civil and mature thread so lets try and keep it that way.
it took exactly 10 mins for us to go from "should MP5 be banned" to "when did Eric got off the boat"
please keep this on topic guys. so far it has been a very civil and mature thread so lets try and keep it that way.
Originally posted by blonde
no we don't neet mods on this board
it took exactly 10 mins for us to go from "should MP5 be banned" to "when did Eric got off the boat"
please keep this on topic guys. so far it has been a very civil and mature thread so lets try and keep it that way.
no we don't neet mods on this board
it took exactly 10 mins for us to go from "should MP5 be banned" to "when did Eric got off the boat"
please keep this on topic guys. so far it has been a very civil and mature thread so lets try and keep it that way.
I'm having MP5 with drawal.
I understand and respect Mod's reasoning. However, I personally do not support outright bans and hope common sense on both sides will prevail and another solution will be brought forth.
I am also intrigued by the idea of the "unmoderated" free-for-all forum. I cannot envision how it can work and still remain "in good taste".
I am also intrigued by the idea of the "unmoderated" free-for-all forum. I cannot envision how it can work and still remain "in good taste".


