So what is the consensus on this new turbo?

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=144154

 

Most exciting product anouncement of late, atleast IMO, even above Alky/Water Injection being more widely introduced itno the EVO community. Potentially a bolt up 60-100whp modification, and the 441whp made on the stock cams, stock i/c with race gas gives me good reason to believe 430whp or so on pump/alky should be possible without even touching the head. Definitely have high hopes for this setup.

 

I think the consensus is wait until the hype dies down and you start seeing some non-biased dyno sheets being produced, hopefully on a Dyno Dynamics so we can have a comparison. By this time Vishnu mightcould have a cast stage 2 up and running. Inevitably Andrew at Dyno4mance will dyno one of each on the same dyno, and until then it will be nothing but armchair dyno racers and their *conversion* estimates.

Unless you're an early adopter or a HP junkie, I'd sit on the fence and see how this develops, look at the price points of the two options and make my decision from there. Keep in mind that white rabbit IS using AEM EMS but ISN'T using camshafts. I'll wait until I see a dyno of an Xede equipped car with cams and a white rabbit on a DD Dyno that way I can weigh it against the Vishnu Stage 2. People can argue about which is better, but from this competition we, the end users, benefit the most and I'm eagerly awaiting some results before I plunk down my mastercard.

Grasshopper say grab some popcorn, sit back and watch.

 

Yeah, thats how I feel too. I just want to see some 3rd party results that may or may not better represent the new turbo. I'm really wanting to see how it does with either a flash or an XEDE with cams, that should tell the whole story.

Off Topic: "dude" are you back in Augusta yet?

 

441 whp. Is that the equivelent of around 370 whp on a Dyno Dynamics? Must have tested it with a tail wind downhill in a walk-in refrigerator...

 

I see no reason to have anythign but high expectations for this setup, considering the nominal taper to 8krpm and the consistent torque made across the band this setup should be capable of suprising a lot of people once the community gets their hands on it. Also... from what i know Swytzer has little reason to try to fudge dyno numbers. However, I do think 441whp might be slightly optimistic but it should be close on race gas considering how that turbo seems to maintain power througout.

Looking purely at the turbo on paper I think its the next big thing to hit, soemthing that might not disappoint.

 

Keep in mind that pull was done with the Airbox Lid and Filter removed. Not exactly your everyday street setup. IIRC, previous pull was 430ish on 120 Leaded Race Gas, again, quite a stretch for those of us with Cats for whom race gas is 100 pump unleaded. Additionally the pump gas run was on 94 Octane, which last time I checked, is available in some small percentage of the U.S. where I've never been. And I travel a lot. Not trying to start anything, just saying wait until the dust settles.

Nope, and won't be going back. However I will be back in Middle GA in October once I'm out of the Army. In November I attend a job conference in Austin, TX and will then move to wherever corporate America takes me. With any luck this will coincide with another Dyno4mance Dyno day. You reading this Andrew?

 

Also keep in mind the stock airbox is usually much less effective in numbers on the dyno over an open element consider airflow can never be simulated 100%. My plan would be to run pump/water injection, or have a 103 unleaded tune done. Considering how the turbo seems to maintain boost, on even these very preliminary runs, a stock ign system obviously not up to the task I think this setup will shine with a little more work.

 

The HKS DLI would probably work well. I believe Buschur likes that setup.

I think this turbo would work great with the S.M.A.R.T. add-on for the XEDE

 

I will do my best to accomodate you Dude.....
50% discount on Dyno time goes to the first Xede equipped evo with a white rabbit installed....I would also like to do a comparo on this turbo

 

I also think that this new turbo and the SMART are going to be very well suited to each other. Just speculation of course. I plan on getting both, then some HKS 264 cams, and eventually a 2.3l stroker kit. I love low end torque...

 

Damn. You think Shiv will give me that kind of discount on July 10th since I ordered my WHite Rabbit yesterday?

 

Ok, but you have to install it too.

 

It will be very interesting to see how the white rabbit stacks up to a 3071 based setup, but for right now there just isn't enough information - no compressor map, not enough dyno sheets, not enough cars. Let's hope the white rabbit doesn't turn into a white elephant

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Was'nt that pull done with AEM EMS (stand alone) and Speed Density aswell?