Thats why I said it might be on race. Maybe you should have read my post before reacting to it. Also close to 400 pump on a dynojet isn't that impressive with his mods, not to mention his lack of tq.

 

It would be nice to have a before and after (20G) dyno on the same car same day.

I dont see why its soo hard to find a decent running car willing to upgrade to the 20G and willing to run before and after dyno's.

Do this on 93 octane no alchy just a simple street tune with typical street mods. It seems like there's always some kind of variable that makes the dyno's we have fall short of a true comparison.

 

I'm considering the 20GIX. If I do purchase it, I'll dyno it before and after.

 

I thought Ted posted before and after the 20G earlier in the thread?
I also have 93 graphs before and after if people would like.....

 

Could you PM it to me with his mods? Thanks

 

I'm selling my Evo and just going to drive my Chevelle around. Things are a lot simpler on that car.

Seriously though, I'm trying to read so much info before I do "ANY" mods on my car at all, and it's really hard to figure out what to go with. My brain is starting to hurt. I don't see the slightly bigger or improved stock like turbos as worth the money to me. I mean all the hassles of install, the cash for the units, then the moddest gains........

From a newbie stand point where money is very tight, I'm going to stick with the basics and run Alky/Meth on my stock turbo and be happy until I decide asnd can afford to go with the 50 trim or something along the GT series lines


Am I way off base here? I'm not trying to thread jack, so please stick with me.

Are any of these 20g/WR/TME turbos really worth the money and time? Things just seemed a lot more cut and dry with my old GSX.

 

The consensus seems to be that the tried and true TME is a good way to go. Plenty of history and plenty of numbers. Plus, they keep coming down in price. The driveability alone is worth the "upgrade"

 

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My due dilligence? First of all use the phrase correctly. You act like I owe it to you to check if someone is running race gas or not. We're not talking about court papers. My post is focusing about the power of the 20GIX. And so far, it really hasn't been impressive. Even BD only claims 30hp over the Evo8 turbo on his website. What are you an english teacher? I brought up the fact that it could be on race gas. How do you know for sure he was on race gas? You have a post topic? Or are you assuming he was on race gas? Even without race gas, I bet on pump its right on par with the 20GIXs 350ish tq. My point was that the 20GIX isn't that impressive from this stand point. And if you read the other posts, lots of people agree that it isn't thus far. But I understand your viewpoint. I would be pissed to if I wasted 1500 on that WR of yours.

 

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Ok guys... group hug.

 

Gentlemen, please!! Let's try to keep this on topic.

When we installed this turbo, we removed a boost pill so I could get more than the 25psi spike I was getting with the TME. With the first dyno runs we made, the initial boost spike was headed toward the moon (29psi and rising rapidly). Unfortunately, the torque curve was not. We tuned out some the high boost spike for tuning purposes, which explains the boost curve in the dyno plots. Andrew posted those two back to back runs simply to show that increasing the boost did not increase power. I wondered if the WG actuator could be tightened further, but if it were not tightened sufficiently, would I be seeing the strong high rpm boost pressures (21-22 psi) that I'm presently seeing?

My 20G-9 has a TiAl turbine (as per my request), which was retrofitted. I had a conversation with the individual who did the inconel -> TiAl conversion, and he recalls specifically that my unit has the 6-bladed compressor. I haven't yet had the time, place, and sufficient lighting to verify this.

 

I put down 365 pump, no cams, stock turbo. I don't think another 15 hp is that hard to get. Especially when the dynapack I dyno'd on reads lower then the dynojets around here so 380 is reasonable. Are you retarded, we were talking about my viewpoint, not yours. You don't even have one. And you didn't use the phrase correctly. This isn't a business transaction, and researching someone's exact dyno #s and specifications before posting your thoughts about what they are running is not due diligence. Look it up kid.

 

Please stop.

 

I agree.

I feel its just too early to determine which info is propaganda and which info is legit.

At least we know the facts about TME are well documented.