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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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how does Shiv feel about the 20GIX turbo

Hey Shiv,

What are you thoughts on these 20G EVO IX turbos? Have you tuned any?

What are the necessary mods to take advantage of the turbo?

Thx,

Steve
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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It was only a matter of time until this thread would pop up .
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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The best answer would be.... "no comment"
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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omg

good timing, exact same post time....
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Brilliant minds think alike!!! Seriously though, it's one of those things that people will figure out for themselves. They don't need me saying anything...

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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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But what about TT 20G kit, now thats where it gets tricky
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Well you see Igor, that's a REAL 20G, not a hack of an existing name in an attempt to sell a product.

However, the real 20G is still very old technology compared to the twin scroll Evo turbos.
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Brilliant minds think alike!!! Seriously though, it's one of those things that people will figure out for themselves. They don't need me saying anything...
It's going to be an expensive lesson for some, so your expertise imput would be highly appreciated before some of us whip out $1300.
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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turbochargers.com is in houston and looks like they sell the same turbo Dave B was so happy with for $700. DB says they dont have turbos but supposedly someone picked one up this past weekend from there.
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turbochargers.com is in houston and looks like they sell the same turbo Dave B was so happy with for $700. DB says they dont have turbos but supposedly someone picked one up this past weekend from there.
You want the skinny on the IX and IX 20G situation? there were some threads in the main forum but they got closed/deleted before word got out.

The IX came out and people learned that it was going to be a bigger turbo than the VIIIs

Turbochargers.com and forcedperformance both wanted IX turbos from mitsu to do testing/sell/develop upgrades.

Turbochargers.com got the first few IX turbos in the states (<50, prob <20)

Turbochargers.com worked with Buschur to develop the 20G-IX (the original 20G-IX with 6 blades on the compressor wheel)

Buschur released the results, the crowd went wild, orders poured in.

turbochargers.com cold out of the few IXs they had, and were waiting for more.

forcedperformance beat them to the punch and got their hands on the next shipment first.

FP put their WR wheel in the IX...

DB had customers pounding down the door and was getting impatient with turbochargers.com not being able to get him the turbos he wanted to sell.

FP calls DB and says they've got a turbo for him to try...

DB tests the WR-IX and says it's just as good as his 20G-IX

DB starts selling the WR-IX as a 20G-IX without telling his customers.

Someone picks up on the difference (6 blades vrs. 5) and calls dave out on it, dave explains his story and is honest with his customers.

Turbochargers.com gets in their shipment of turbos finally, but DB is selling FP turbos now.

turbochargers.com is pissed at DB for being impatient and is selling their IX and 20G-IX turbos cheap to undercut dave's sales.

The End... nice story, right?

Now lets see how long until this thread gets closed/deleted
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperHatch
You want the skinny on the IX and IX 20G situation? there were some threads in the main forum but they got closed/deleted before word got out.

The IX came out and people learned that it was going to be a bigger turbo than the VIIIs

Turbochargers.com and forcedperformance both wanted IX turbos from mitsu to do testing/sell/develop upgrades.

Turbochargers.com got the first few IX turbos in the states (<50, prob <20)

Turbochargers.com worked with Buschur to develop the 20G-IX (the original 20G-IX with 6 blades on the compressor wheel)

Buschur released the results, the crowd went wild, orders poured in.

turbochargers.com cold out of the few IXs they had, and were waiting for more.

forcedperformance beat them to the punch and got their hands on the next shipment first.

FP put their WR wheel in the IX...

DB had customers pounding down the door and was getting impatient with turbochargers.com not being able to get him the turbos he wanted to sell.

FP calls DB and says they've got a turbo for him to try...

DB tests the WR-IX and says it's just as good as his 20G-IX

DB starts selling the WR-IX as a 20G-IX without telling his customers.

Someone picks up on the difference (6 blades vrs. 5) and calls dave out on it, dave explains his story and is honest with his customers.

Turbochargers.com gets in their shipment of turbos finally, but DB is selling FP turbos now.

turbochargers.com is pissed at DB for being impatient and is selling their IX and 20G-IX turbos cheap to undercut dave's sales.

The End... nice story, right?

Now lets see how long until this thread gets closed/deleted
There is also some talk about turbochargers.com balking at the idea of selling the original "20G" for the $1300-1500 price point that DB targeted. And that they had ordered 100 turbos and didn't feel that the could move all of them at that price. So they priced them at around $975 retail. Certainly cheaper than $1300 but I have yet to see any bolt-on turbo (WR or "20G") outperform the standard TME, both in terms of power and spool-up. But that's just me.... Other peoples' results may differ.

Shiv
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperHatch
You want the skinny on the IX and IX 20G situation? there were some threads in the main forum but they got closed/deleted before word got out.

The IX came out and people learned that it was going to be a bigger turbo than the VIIIs

Turbochargers.com and forcedperformance both wanted IX turbos from mitsu to do testing/sell/develop upgrades.

Turbochargers.com got the first few IX turbos in the states (<50, prob <20)

Turbochargers.com worked with Buschur to develop the 20G-IX (the original 20G-IX with 6 blades on the compressor wheel)

Buschur released the results, the crowd went wild, orders poured in.

turbochargers.com cold out of the few IXs they had, and were waiting for more.

forcedperformance beat them to the punch and got their hands on the next shipment first.

FP put their WR wheel in the IX...

DB had customers pounding down the door and was getting impatient with turbochargers.com not being able to get him the turbos he wanted to sell.

FP calls DB and says they've got a turbo for him to try...

DB tests the WR-IX and says it's just as good as his 20G-IX

DB starts selling the WR-IX as a 20G-IX without telling his customers.

Someone picks up on the difference (6 blades vrs. 5) and calls dave out on it, dave explains his story and is honest with his customers.

Turbochargers.com gets in their shipment of turbos finally, but DB is selling FP turbos now.

turbochargers.com is pissed at DB for being impatient and is selling their IX and 20G-IX turbos cheap to undercut dave's sales.

The End... nice story, right?

Now lets see how long until this thread gets closed/deleted
Great sum up of about a 1000 pages of reading!
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Wow, I had no idea all that went down. Crazy stuff. Wonder why buschur just didn't wait regardless of the orders pending?



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