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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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what is this looking to be priced at?
BUDLoNG
Dustin said the pricing wasn't final, but would probably close to what an Xede costs.
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by David@Vishnu
The biggest limitation with the factory ECU code is that ignition timing is only tunable to +/- 1.0 degree making mapping granularity less than ideal. The Load scaling, in the stock code at least, maxes out around 23psi as well.
Maybe I'm missing what you are saying, but you CAN change the timing maps in the Evo ECU all you want. There is NO +/- 1.0 degree of change limitation in the stock Evo ECU. The only limit is what the "motor wants" for timing

Load scaling can be changed to what you need for boost also. You should be able to change the scaling on the axis to get more resolution where you need in all of the maps. If it's a MAF limitation, that can be taken car of in the ECU too. These are not limitations of the stock ECU, but limits of the knowledge of the ECU itself.

Not trying to bash, only educate.

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by STirish
Maybe I'm missing what you are saying, but you CAN change the timing maps in the Evo ECU all you want. There is NO +/- 1.0 degree of change limitation in the stock Evo ECU. The only limit is what the "motor wants" for timing

Load scaling can be changed to what you need for boost also. You should be able to change the scaling on the axis to get more resolution where you need in all of the maps. If it's a MAF limitation, that can be taken car of in the ECU too. These are not limitations of the stock ECU, but limits of the knowledge of the ECU itself.

Not trying to bash, only educate.
When Dave said that the the mapping granularity is limited to +/- 1 deg, he is talking about the minimum degree of change. This can be compared to the fractions of a degree increments that the XEDE can change timing. Not a big deal in Suby applications where timing numbers are always in the double digits (even under boost). In an EVO, total advance is between 0-6 degrees throughout the entire midband. This makes +/- 1 deg changes less than desireable.

As for the load limits, let us know what he said that isn't correct.
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean@Vishnu
When Dave said that the the mapping granularity is limited to +/- 1 deg, he is talking about the minimum degree of change. This can be compared to the fractions of a degree increments that the XEDE can change timing. Not a big deal in Suby applications where timing numbers are always in the double digits (even under boost). In an EVO, total advance is between 0-6 degrees throughout the entire midband. This makes +/- 1 deg changes less than desirable.

As for the load limits, let us know what he said that isn't correct.
Ok, so I did miss what he was saying about the timing. Sorry. If you want higher resolution with the change in timing in the stock Evo ECU, that can be done also.

The load scaling (and just about any other scaling or axis) can be changed in the stock ecu. If you hit the MAF limitation, that can be handled in the stock ECU. That all I'm saying.

The limitations you speak of are a limitation of the tools being used, not the ECU.

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by STirish
Ok, so I did miss what he was saying about the timing. Sorry. If you want higher resolution with the change in timing in the stock Evo ECU, that can be done also.

The load scaling (and just about any other scaling or axis) can be changed in the stock ecu. If you hit the MAF limitation, that can be handled in the stock ECU. That all I'm saying.

The limitations you speak of are a limitation of the tools being used, not the ECU.
I agree with you . In the stock ECU you can resize the MAF sensor, change the filtering off throttle and on throttle, rescaling the MAF sensor scaling table 2D map, and change the MAF tweak table 2D map. When I reflash Evo's with bigger turbos, I am able to change these values.

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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If the software for this is anything close to HPTuners software, you guys are going to shut down every single piggy back user on the planet. GOOD FOR YOU!!! Now give it to me!!! Before I have to come hurt you

Seriously, when is this comming out????
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Trey@COBB
That makes sense. Good work guys, and please pass along my respects to Lachlan Riddel the next time you speak with him.

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Trey @ COBB
I don't think Vishnu has ever made their own stuff, they always struck me as very knowledgeable tuners, more like a "think tank" ... so when Vishnu does "release" things its more like the other manufacturer behind the scenes has finished manufacturing/Q.A.ing the part eg: Ohlins, Chip Torque, etc ...

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=176665

Better get AccessECU to hurry up and get the EVO accessport completed. What really baffles me is why domestic cars have hand held reflasher for a dime a dozen ($100ish) and it costs import owners an arm and a leg for almost the same thing ($600ish for an Accessport).

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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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A single license for a Corvette flash will run you $500.
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
I don't think Vishnu has ever made their own stuff, they always struck me as very knowledgeable tuners, more like a "think tank" ... so when Vishnu does "release" things its more like the other manufacturer behind the scenes has finished manufacturing/Q.A.ing the part eg: Ohlins, Chip Torque, etc ...

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I guess on the manufacturer comment. Shiv has done massive R&D on the application side and design side of all the chiptorque products. Its not like a perfect product is delivered at the doorstep. The Austrailian guys are in CA with shiv working weeks straight 4-5 times a year on products. Ohlins have to be revalved and resetup as they dont come from the factory to be as great as the modified ones- thats what you get with real race systems. Chronohunter an accomplished pro driver has done many hours of R&D along with his other pro guys putting many different combinations through their paces. He has access to the best facilities there are and his suspension systems are truly a shining star in the evo community. World class already set up systems this good were only reserved for exotics and factory backed race efforts and is unheard of in a inexpensive import car. Exhausts and turbokits and other items are once a proven performer (as determined by shiv) are assembled in the area by an excellent race car only manufacturer. So While shiv isnt soldering (anymore) or welding turbokits I dont think its truthful to say that Vishnu doesnt make anything. He is very much involved in all processes.

BTW I am even shocked at the capabilities and uses of this new product, In a very short time I think everyone will be too.

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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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Omg It's Hypertech For An Evo Holy ****
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Looking forward to it.
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by David@Vishnu

vishnu, when is this product going to be available?
i have the v360 but i never sended my ecu for the xedeflash should i send it or wait for this product?? is it going to be thhe same as the xedeflash?
thanks
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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Please include the ability to turn off the cel for running catless :-)
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Prototype hardware is already being tested in cars More info to come soon...

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