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Old May 25, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
The car is going to enter outfitted just like it was for One Lap. It wasn't broke so there is nothing to fix However, we're working with BFG (who, we just found out, is going to use our One Lap EVO for their new upcoming tire ads!) on getting wider rubber on the car. We're also hoping to have some more aero work done (front splitter). That's about it.

As for winning, there is little or no chance. The 0-150mph test is going to kill us due to aero/drag issues inherent with the EVO. Can't compete with a 700hp Vette running a Cd of .29. The several seconds we'll lose above 120mph or so is going to be tough, if not impossible, to make up in the other portions of the test (1/4 mile, road course, braking).

Well, that's my take on it so far... we'll see

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Shiv good luck man, I'm assuming the Evo wont break since it didnt in One Lap which means you should beat at least 2 of those guys based on previous performance. And you should do well in 1/4th mile because vipers dont hook up for anything when you put too much power in them like Hennessy does, but as you pointed out your dead after 100mph in this contest. The rumor in the benz world is Renn-tech has a 700+hp e-class which has even lower drag than the vette.

Actually the more I think about it the Evo should do ok, purely by finnishing and by placing middle of the raod in a couple of events and hell just being invited to play with those cars is a win.
Old May 25, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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You guys must have missed the entire writeup about the One Lap of America challenge. The Vishnu Evo is tuned for DRY and totally flailed in the wet. Put them in last place on wet loop. Go read...then quit praying for rain.
I thought I read that the diffs sucked in the rain because they were freshly installed and not properly set up. Not that they tuned them for use in the dry.....

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Old May 25, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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Goodluck on your EVO!! They gonna meet their match!!
Old May 25, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Secret Chimp
I thought I read that the diffs sucked in the rain because they were freshly installed and not properly set up. Not that they tuned them for use in the dry.....

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I think the diffs were set at a high breaking poundage out of the box....I do not think Vishnu had time to adjust and re adjust before 1 lap...a big job I hear.. that would mean they would/will be great flat out in the dry but in the wet you don't get very high g #'s by rotating the car sideways on a wet surface, which is exacly what would happen with heavy set LSD's in the wet..
Old May 25, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyno4mance
I think the diffs were set at a high breaking poundage out of the box....I do not think Vishnu had time to adjust and re adjust before 1 lap...a big job I hear.. that would mean they would/will be great flat out in the dry but in the wet you don't get very high g #'s by rotating the car sideways on a wet surface, which is exacly what would happen with heavy set LSD's in the wet..
The car just would not turn in the wet (gross understeer). Even when I clutched it to hopefully snap it into oversteer...it just pushed worse. The best way to describe what the car did would be imagine a 4x4 truck in four low in a mud field trying to do tight donuts, it woud push real bad and at full throttle would
s-l-o-w-l-y transision to oversteer but by then I was out of road (make any sense at all?). That's water under the bridge now because it's great in the rain now so commence the rain dance! I am not sure if they will run in the wet because of the high speeds on the banking . I would do it in a second however because we stand a real chance in the wet. The advantage we will have is AWD (wet or dry) the start is on the back-straight which is real slick (even slicker than the drag strip in Heartland Park ). So the high HP cars will suffer on the launch. I predict we will be close on ET but smoked by 15-20mph in trap-speed (they will be ~140mph in the quarter). We will get four tries for the perfect launch. As Shiv said we will fall way back on the 100-150 (perhaps over 5 seconds). We will hit them as hard a possible and will have the EVO once again further up the standings than peaple thought possible (fingers crossed!). Wish us luck and thanks, Paul

BTW I heard the Mallet cars are bad-*** CTS-V's with mega hp and yep they are in our class...
Old May 26, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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Whatever happens, you can bet that we're going to try to represent the EVO community the best we can!! With Paul driving and those little underhood hamsters boosting to 30psi, we should surprise a few people

shiv

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Old May 26, 2004 | 06:33 AM
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Best of luck to you!
Old May 26, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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Remember, Shiv's car is a spoiler which in essence means that it's meant to otherwise skew what is projected to be an almost forgone conclusion. This is another opportunity to show what can be done with a much cheaper car than the vast majority if not all of the competitors. Not a replacement for most but an alternative. I mean, nobody in their right mind would take an EVO over an Enzo or the like, but they sure as hell would want one for a second car. And when you make more people stop and look, sort of make them rethink their expectations or just rub their noses in the dirt a bit, well, thats just another notch in the headboard for Vishnu and the EVO.
Old May 26, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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Shiv.. someone commented a couple of pages back that there are no STI tuners invited.. I take it he doesn't realize your expertise with the WRX cars. But his point is interesting and begs the question.. Why no STIs? The Sti community constantly touts the superior potential of their larger motor. Even C&D placed them ahead of our cars as one of the best cars available articles I read. Given your extensive work with both cars, what is your take here please? BTW tear it up big dog. WOOF
Old May 26, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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Perhaps the a$$whooping the STi's got at One Lap convinced C&D that the Evo is better suited for this type of competition.
Old May 26, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
Perhaps the a$$whooping the STi's got at One Lap convinced C&D that the Evo is better suited for this type of competition.
No doubt... I'd like to think that the major magazines are all in agreement that the Evo's a better overall performance car, ESPECIALLY when it comes to modification. I also think Shiv, et al (no pun intended) are continuing to prove it to them.

The only time you see the STi rated "higher" is when it's a public opion poll, mostly because of the sheer # of Subie guys. Like that stupid Spike 52 thing, and R&T's "Reader's Choice" car of the year...
Old May 26, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tangmere
Remember, Shiv's car is a spoiler which in essence means that it's meant to otherwise skew what is projected to be an almost forgone conclusion. This is another opportunity to show what can be done with a much cheaper car than the vast majority if not all of the competitors. Not a replacement for most but an alternative. I mean, nobody in their right mind would take an EVO over an Enzo or the like, but they sure as hell would want one for a second car. And when you make more people stop and look, sort of make them rethink their expectations or just rub their noses in the dirt a bit, well, thats just another notch in the headboard for Vishnu and the EVO.

Great post!
Old May 27, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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I just wanted to say congratulations to Shiv and the Vishnu car at the One Lap competition, you guys did great! I was already planning on going with the Xede from Vishnu when I wanted to get a power upgrade, but now I know that I will for sure!! Their performance in the competition also makes me very proud to be an Evo owner.
Old May 27, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
Perhaps the a$$whooping the STi's got at One Lap convinced C&D that the Evo is better suited for this type of competition.
a$$whooping sounds a bit overrated considering it was a highly UNMODDED sti finishing 6th overall, just behind the evo...you might actually raise doubts on who got his a$$ whooped imho.

granted the result wouldn't have been so tight without the first stage result, but it was a close race until the final day.


Too bad the pump fuel will hurt the performance for this quest for the Vishnu team, but best of luck guys!

cheers

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Old May 27, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Mikeguava.

Could you expound on what modifications were done to the One Lap Subie? Engine flash, tires, suspension, etc...

This would help qualify your statements.

Thanks,

jcnel.



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