Utah Evos
I like 99% of the people on here, I'm not going to argue my point anymore. When i'm done with my new build i will be going to the Dyno, and i will post the day we are going so you can all come out and see what kind of numbers i will put down.
I'm tired of trying to get people to understand, maybe i should have not sold my old setup! With the new setup i will be going for even higher "miracle" numbers, If i have offended anyone i apologize. BMX801 you better start saving your money and building your car, when i'm done. You sir are my first victim!
I'm tired of trying to get people to understand, maybe i should have not sold my old setup! With the new setup i will be going for even higher "miracle" numbers, If i have offended anyone i apologize. BMX801 you better start saving your money and building your car, when i'm done. You sir are my first victim!
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I don't!
I just think there are a lot of people on here that can't read
and don't understand physics!
Density/horsepower is a 1:1 ratio so if you gain 18% in density you will gain 18% horsepower! Fact... Lowering you air intake temps raise horsepower! Fact...
Plain and simple if you have air/air and you switch to air/water you will gain horsepower... now if you're stupid like me and try to push the limits of a particular setup you will be doubted, I understand everyones point that doubts me. None of them understand mine! I gained a **** load of horsepower by going to extreme lengths to cool my intake temps. I wouldn't recommend running a setup like mine unless you know what the **** you are doing. Some people are just going to have too wait until i'm done with my build, anyone that doubts me can stop by the shop anytime i'm there! I have a few books you can look at and learn about air density and how it relates to horsepower, ONR, detination. I'm at work so we can continue later!
I just think there are a lot of people on here that can't read
and don't understand physics!Density/horsepower is a 1:1 ratio so if you gain 18% in density you will gain 18% horsepower! Fact... Lowering you air intake temps raise horsepower! Fact...
Plain and simple if you have air/air and you switch to air/water you will gain horsepower... now if you're stupid like me and try to push the limits of a particular setup you will be doubted, I understand everyones point that doubts me. None of them understand mine! I gained a **** load of horsepower by going to extreme lengths to cool my intake temps. I wouldn't recommend running a setup like mine unless you know what the **** you are doing. Some people are just going to have too wait until i'm done with my build, anyone that doubts me can stop by the shop anytime i'm there! I have a few books you can look at and learn about air density and how it relates to horsepower, ONR, detination. I'm at work so we can continue later!
Also in the second graph you see how to calculate your given exit temp of the compressor wheel before any intercooling.
Anyway. Other's are right. There is no point in debating a topic that will never have a conclusion. Since the set-up has been sold I would just let it be, and I would probably just suggest to Jason to tell people he had a STRONG GT30/76R set-up, but it would be un-fair to say any specific number or "over 600 whp" since we will never know. It would be like a scientist having a hypothesis and everyone EXPECTED to believe it, but never running the experiment. That scientist would be scalded for such behavior in the scientific world, and I would assume someone doing the same in the automotive would would be treated the same. Would you agree that is fair Jason?
Hope to meet some of you guys next meet. Sorry I didn't make it to this last one.
LETS HAVE ANOTHER! :-)
J. R.
The Graphing charts I sent you was to show that it is not a 1:1 ratio as you say. The density charge of one mole (n) of a air molecule was in that graph. The problem is as the air is heated the number of moles stays the same but not in a given volume, so you can't think of the volume as a constant in the gas law equation even though they appear directly proportional from the PV=nRT equation. Go look at that graph.
Also in the second graph you see how to calculate your given exit temp of the compressor wheel before any intercooling.
Anyway. Other's are right. There is no point in debating a topic that will never have a conclusion. Since the set-up has been sold I would just let it be, and I would probably just suggest to Jason to tell people he had a STRONG GT30/76R set-up, but it would be un-fair to say any specific number or "over 600 whp" since we will never know. It would be like a scientist having a hypothesis and everyone EXPECTED to believe it, but never running the experiment. That scientist would be scalded for such behavior in the scientific world, and I would assume someone doing the same in the automotive would would be treated the same. Would you agree that is fair Jason?
Hope to meet some of you guys next meet. Sorry I didn't make it to this last one.
LETS HAVE ANOTHER! :-)
J. R.
Also in the second graph you see how to calculate your given exit temp of the compressor wheel before any intercooling.
Anyway. Other's are right. There is no point in debating a topic that will never have a conclusion. Since the set-up has been sold I would just let it be, and I would probably just suggest to Jason to tell people he had a STRONG GT30/76R set-up, but it would be un-fair to say any specific number or "over 600 whp" since we will never know. It would be like a scientist having a hypothesis and everyone EXPECTED to believe it, but never running the experiment. That scientist would be scalded for such behavior in the scientific world, and I would assume someone doing the same in the automotive would would be treated the same. Would you agree that is fair Jason?
Hope to meet some of you guys next meet. Sorry I didn't make it to this last one.
LETS HAVE ANOTHER! :-)
J. R.
Last edited by Fairclough; Jan 12, 2010 at 12:10 PM.
anyway. Other's are right. There is no point in debating a topic that will never have a conclusion. Since the set-up has been sold i would just let it be, and i would probably just suggest to jason to tell people he had a strong gt30/76r set-up, but it would be un-fair to say any specific number or "over 600 whp" since we will never know. It would be like a scientist having a hypothesis and everyone expected to believe it, but never running the experiment. That scientist would be scalded for such behavior in the scientific world, and i would assume someone doing the same in the automotive would would be treated the same. Would you agree that is fair jason?
Hope to meet some of you guys next meet. Sorry i didn't make it to this last one.
Lets have another! :-)
j. R.
Hope to meet some of you guys next meet. Sorry i didn't make it to this last one.
Lets have another! :-)
j. R.
And STi > Timmay. Problems solved
