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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by flexer
Man put that thing on a DYNO already so you can shut everyone up like myself because I think this is all a bunch of POO!!!

thats right, I said poo. :-)

Jason, your asking a 52 lb turbo to flow 64 lbs of air. I don't think it can do it, but I think your saying that the cold dense air charge is going to make up for that 12 lbs of volume flow that a 76mm compressor wheel just Isn't going to muster.

Like I said though, I'll be the first in line to stand with rest of the clowns in the corner when you show us the dyno......... but something tells me like most people you'll never hit the dyno with it, and so it will go down in history as just another HE said YOU said story. :-(

Sad though, because I really would have liked a conclusion to the novel.

J. R.

PS

Here is some good reading
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/turbo/turboflow.html

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1

PSS

Forgetting all the volume of flow vs density charge crap behind, I am currently really interested in the idea's of dynamic compression ratio based on variable cam's like v-tec and mivec. Here is a article I came across for those interested.

http://www.empirenet.com/pkelley2/DynamicCR.html
Here we go again.
Ported, extreme coated, gt3076 exhaust manifold, downpipe.
3 stage intercooler, air/liquid, water/meth, nitrous.
36.2~42psi I didn't say it was good for the turbo, I'm just testing (pushing) my own setup.
It won't let me post your spreadsheet, what's your email and i will send it too you!
and you can see the results for yourself!
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:08 AM
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I don't know if you ment to write Nate or Josue but this is Josue J.R. Anyways, I'm still waiting....

And like wesside said, there's a dyno in Orem.

Anyways, if it goes down we need to have video for AMS too.

Originally Posted by flexer
ha ha.......

But you know me Nate. I am just a dumb idiot anyway. You remember what Joe at turbo lab's said about me:

" J. R. is a nice guy but he has no business touching anything automotive. He should just stay away from cars."

Weird thing about that comment is I don't even really know him, and he doesn't know me, so why would someone make a comment like that. Strange that he would even say something like that.
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Very strange.......


J. R.
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:09 AM
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iPhone not foot for posting. Double post....

Originally Posted by flexer
ha ha.......

But you know me Nate. I am just a dumb idiot anyway. You remember what Joe at turbo lab's said about me:

" J. R. is a nice guy but he has no business touching anything automotive. He should just stay away from cars."

Weird thing about that comment is I don't even really know him, and he doesn't know me, so why would someone make a comment like that. Strange that he would even say something like that.
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Very strange.......


J. R.

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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Fairclough
Here we go again.
Ported, extreme coated, gt3076 exhaust manifold, downpipe.
3 stage intercooler, air/liquid, water/meth, nitrous.
36.2~42psi I didn't say it was good for the turbo, I'm just testing (pushing) my own setup.
It won't let me post your spreadsheet, what's your email and i will send it too you!
and you can see the results for yourself!

I dont want to spill anything online but i thought you werent going with a gt3076?
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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Damn iPhone! Posted it three times! Sorry guys.

Originally Posted by flexer
ha ha.......

But you know me Nate. I am just a dumb idiot anyway. You remember what Joe at turbo lab's said about me:

" J. R. is a nice guy but he has no business touching anything automotive. He should just stay away from cars."

Weird thing about that comment is I don't even really know him, and he doesn't know me, so why would someone make a comment like that. Strange that he would even say something like that.
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Very strange.......


J. R.

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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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If you guys are still worried bout his numbers then why don't you guys put up the money so that he can take it to a good dyno and see what it has. This is getting way out of hand already. I honestly don't know why you guys are hating on him so much he probably has more **** done to his car then any one in Utah. And so here's my question for all the hater against Jason Fairclough if he does and when he does push those numbers on the dyno then what's gonna happen? Don't worry Jason I have faith and got your back
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jaycheetwood
I dont want to spill anything online but i thought you werent going with a gt3076?
I'm not anymore i'm going to push the **** out of a HTA35R!

If people knew how to read they would see what i said, loud and clear!
Not only i'm i pushing this turbo past it's limits... I'm also cheating, If i Dyno on a 100* day my numbers would be elevated past any air/air intercooler just for the simple fact, i'm not getting hot ambient air cooling an inefficeint air/air intercooler... It's also 14 times more efficeint because of water density, and i'm not even using just water. There are guy's pushing 540awhp out of GT3076 with air/air intercooler. The turbo setup has been sold, and the new parts will be on within the next month or two, and we will be on the Dyno to see what elevated numbers i can push out of this setup!
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sikwititevo9
If you guys are still worried bout his numbers then why don't you guys put up the money so that he can take it to a good dyno and see what it has. This is getting way out of hand already. I honestly don't know why you guys are hating on him so much he probably has more **** done to his car then any one in Utah. And so here's my question for all the hater against Jason Fairclough if he does and when he does push those numbers on the dyno then what's gonna happen? Don't worry Jason I have faith and got your back
Nobody is really "HATING" on Jason...Neither his character, integrity or skills were ever questioned. NOBODY EVER SAID THAT THE CAR ISN'T FAST.

There was a claim made with no hard data to back it up...nothing.

Seriously, you cannot make an outragous claim with nothing to back it up and EXPECT EVERYBODY TO BELIEVE IT. Honestly, I don't care how much power the car makes, It's just not going to spit out the claimed numbers.

Something you kids need to keep in mind is that he isn't the only one that knows about hot rodding a car...there's quite a few actually.

With that said...If he by some miracle does produce said power, I will be the first to offer my Congratulations...From what it sounds like, he's since gone "bigger" so it's just moot point.

Just let this subject die!!
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gear head
Nobody is really "HATING" on Jason...Neither his character, integrity or skills were ever questioned. NOBODY EVER SAID THAT THE CAR ISN'T FAST.

There was a claim made with no hard data to back it up...nothing.

Seriously, you cannot make an outragous claim with nothing to back it up and EXPECT EVERYBODY TO BELIEVE IT. Honestly, I don't care how much power the car makes, It's just not going to spit out the claimed numbers.

Something you kids need to keep in mind is that he isn't the only one that knows about hot rodding a car...there's quite a few actually.

With that said...If he by some miracle does produce said power, I will be the first to offer my Congratulations...From what it sounds like, he's since gone "bigger" so it's just moot point.

Just let this subject die!!
That's my point, with air/liquid intercooler you will show miracle numbers. How can i put this so you guy's understand all i have to make is 525awhp, the turbo is already at that, the intercooler is a density recovery system, I'm gaining the horsepower from recouperating the density (20* intake temps, this is not on a car that is daily driven, it's a test bed) I'm using distilled water, water wetter, sea salt, anti-freeze and nitrous to cool the the intake charge. Look on Buschur racings web page, if you go to there big intercooler they gained 50+hp on a 600hp car (and that's on an inefficeint air/air intercooler, no other changes). Ask him what his intake temps are, they're not 20*. Like i said before i don't give a ****ing **** if you believe me...
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gear head
From what it sounds like, he's since gone "bigger" so it's just moot point.
Just let this subject die!!
X2 640whp was being said on a GT3076R not a HTA GT35R end of story
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Fairclough
That's my point, with air/liquid intercooler you will show miracle numbers. How can i put this so you guy's understand all i have to make is 525awhp, the turbo is already at that, the intercooler is a density recovery system, I'm gaining the horsepower from recouperating the density (20* intake temps, this is not on a car that is daily driven, it's a test bed) I'm using distilled water, water wetter, sea salt, anti-freeze and nitrous to cool the the intake charge. Look on Buschur racings web page, if you go to there big intercooler they gained 50+hp on a 600hp car (and that's on an inefficeint air/air intercooler, no other changes). Ask him what his intake temps are, they're not 20*. Like i said before i don't give a ****ing **** if you believe me...
How where you making 525AWHP?? What dyno do you tune on? Who tuned your car? 525AWHP out of a gt30 is very impressive. Last time I checked your name isn't Courtney Green (master tuner in Utah). If you where making this kind of power your times at the midnights would have been a lot better than what they where...... Please do not say you where not getting traction at RMR I find that extremely hard to believe. Casey's car was making that kind of power and went 11.41 @ 123 on 225/45/17 street tires....
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ~BoOsTeR~
What ya'll think of my new (but old) track wheels?

Courtesy of Shawn @ Unknown Coatings :P

I'll need a fat spacer for the kind of offset I want
They look sick man What size tires are you looking for?

Originally Posted by UnknownCoatings
Damn I missed a meet, that sucks. I wish I had time to check all the forums all the time, seems like I always miss meets.

Glad you like the wheels, for those wondering its a dead on ***** accurate match to Volk Mag Blue
Do you have a match for Volk's Green wheels and Orange wheels that is exact ?

Originally Posted by wesside
I love that E30 and that NSX is teh SEX! I was with scuba steve and he got stuck on baby duty so pwned any plans and we talked about fixing the 2.3 700whp paper weight that's sitting in his garage...he still teetering on getting rid of it

When's next meet? Motha ****as throw me a text next time before the day of the meet
Ya you should have come down and yes the NSX was sooo SEXY Tell steve to keep it and come out to the meets We need some fast Evos around here to hit up RMR and put down a fast time Fastest evo I have seen so far at RMR was a mid to low 11 sec car Come on now if a FWD honda can put down a low 9 sec why can't any of the AWD Evos put down a good fast time

Originally Posted by slc-ralliart
That was my Dad's. It is for sale for the right price. It is an awesome car.
So sick and clean

Originally Posted by slc-ralliart
His could be had for less than 15K because it will need some engine work (new timing chaing, maybe head gasket) and just a freshening up of the engine. He has 13 Kosei K1 wheels. The ones on the car, one set mounted with slicks, and 1 unmounted. He went with the 15s because they only weigh about 13 pds per wheel. He has the Sparco seats but also has the full stock interior that is perfect leather. But the body is rust free and would be a great base for someone to build up.
For that price my Dad may be interested in it since he is a big fan of them

Originally Posted by Fairclough
I'm not anymore i'm going to push the **** out of a HTA35R!

If people knew how to read they would see what i said, loud and clear!
Not only i'm i pushing this turbo past it's limits... I'm also cheating, If i Dyno on a 100* day my numbers would be elevated past any air/air intercooler just for the simple fact, i'm not getting hot ambient air cooling an inefficeint air/air intercooler... It's also 14 times more efficeint because of water density, and i'm not even using just water. There are guy's pushing 540awhp out of GT3076 with air/air intercooler. The turbo setup has been sold, and the new parts will be on within the next month or two, and we will be on the Dyno to see what elevated numbers i can push out of this setup!
Well I know for a FACT that one Evo here in Utah almost broke 600whp with a GT3076 I want to say it was in the 575-590 whp range I can't remember it was about 2 maybe 2 and a half years ago and was on Adam's Dyno. I don't think it even pushed more than 32-35psi too. I believe fuel tho was Q16 Race full too and no meth injection and a air to air intercooler. I believe that Jason's set up race gas and pushing 40+psi and everything else that is crazy on the car. It will be really close to that 700 mark. I say for sure mid to high 600 whp in the first few pulls once it finally gets on the dyno and get tuned on there
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sikwititevo9
If you guys are still worried bout his numbers then why don't you guys put up the money so that he can take it to a good dyno and see what it has. This is getting way out of hand already. I honestly don't know why you guys are hating on him so much he probably has more **** done to his car then any one in Utah. And so here's my question for all the hater against Jason Fairclough if he does and when he does push those numbers on the dyno then what's gonna happen? Don't worry Jason I have faith and got your back

Who is "hating"? WHy are you trying to make this out as a PERSONAL attack or anything like that. Most of my friends like Jason a lot. I'm sure when I meet him I am going to like him a lot too.

SO who are you that you are trying to turn this into a little kid fight when some grown-ups are trying to debate somethings?

Jason I hope your not thinking this is a personal attack are you?

J. R.
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 801bmx
How where you making 525AWHP?? What dyno do you tune on? Who tuned your car? 525AWHP out of a gt30 is very impressive. Last time I checked your name isn't Courtney Green (master tuner in Utah). If you where making this kind of power your times at the midnights would have been a lot better than what they where...... Please do not say you where not getting traction at RMR I find that extremely hard to believe. Casey's car was making that kind of power and went 11.41 @ 123 on 225/45/17 street tires....
I was at 26psi at midnight drags can you not read! First time out on a new setup! YOU NEED TO STAY OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION.
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by k20turbo
X2 640whp was being said on a GT3076R not a HTA GT35R end of story
I'm going with a different combimation (I will have more horsepower) If you can't remember i have not changed anything we are still talking about a GT3076.



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