Intercoolers from reputable tuners cost over $600. what are the HP gains with those? these cams at $650 suggested retail price should be a better buy $/HP wise

 

i think that if someone has finished with all the bolt ons on the IX and the last thing that remains is the cams, then getting another 20whp or even 30 (nobody knows yet), then the 1100 for the Cosworth cam-spings-retainers kit is not that bad of a deal...

if by next summer i finish bolting up all the usual stuff (TBE, pipes, intake etc etc) then i wouldn't mind trying the cams...

But really... Works guys... why don't you get a test car, either yours or a customers. sponsor the cams kit and dyno it before and after...???? i am sure your shop can affort such a test and i am 100% sure from the results you will sell so many kits that you will make the test cost plus much much more... i am sure that its not that hard... i trust Cosworth products and i sure that you trust them too... its all matter of a yes, an EVO IX 4-5 hours of testing and producing the results... JUST DO IT... !!!!

 

They probably don't have the cams yet themselves. If they're wating on customer cams to arrive next month, it's most likely the same for them.

 

I was told that WORKS will receive their first shipment of cams on the 18th. They shouldn't have any hard dyno numbers until then. Patience is a virtue.

 

Agreed that Works isn't the issue.... but where is Cosworth's extensive research?? You know they have to have every number any of us could be wishing for... why bury those results.

Also, Cosworth makes no mention of using new springs/retainers with these cams nor do they sell them with the kit. So why does Works insist on their $400 springs/retainers with these cams?.... especially if they haven't even received and tested them yet.

 

Well, Cosworth should have flow numbers for comparison's sake, but they don't usually release HP numbers or exact CAD figures as a matter of course. Proprietary information and such.

As far as WORKS selling the cams with the valvetrain kit, I'm sure they're doing that for safety's sake. After all, if you installed cams that showed more and more power potential with rising rpm's, you probably would have your rev limit raised to take advantage of that untapped potential. Hence the inclusion of the kit. I think I'm betting on the right horse. We'll see I guess.

 

I'm not saying you're wrong.... but if thats the case then Works should already have these cams and have them tested. However, that doesn't seem to be the case in the present situation. There is no information, whatsoever, for any of us that explains why this overly expensive spring/retainer kit is recommened let alone required.

 

I see what you're saying. I have to admit, I'd like to see the HP numbers too. Hopefully, there'll be some hard proof in a couple of weeks, and we'll all have the answers we need to make the right call.

Here's to you.

 

I want to see some before and after plots. If they make power, you'll get my money.

 

hmmm...

 

Quite simple guys, lol. You make a kit like valve springs and retainers to complement such a setup as upgraded cams so how do you make it so that you sell more of them...well you pair a HOT item like the Evo IX cams with that very set of complementary items and watch them both fly off the shelves... hopefully. Ever take Business 101?

 

So how much is the theoretical total package? cams, remove head, put in valve springs and retainers etc... parts and labor. sounds like it would be steep. but then again, it might be money well spent if the gains are there.

 

The head does not need to be removed to install the springs and retainers. It takes about an hour and a half additional labor once the cams are out of the way. We're confirming pricing with Cosworth as we've been given conflicting information. Stay tuned!

 

Thats not bad deal then, let us know when you get the correct price then.

 

Jamie,

Could you also confirm that we also need the spring retainer kit for sure?

Another vedor told me that I would not need to change my spring/retainers unless I raised my rev limit.

regards, Can