Ooops....sorry sir. They average 240-245 WHP

 

That makes no sense. How can a 237 HP car put down 230 HP while a 280 HP car puts down 240 HP? Me thinks there is a problem. Based on the performance numbers, the Ralliart isn't underrated.

 

And how many 09s are actually failing?

 

again you seem to be rounding your numbers up to suite your response to these statements.
where did you get 280? or is that an Amby number pulled out of the air as apposed to quoting an actually dyno number you thrive on. are you trying to refer to this post below about the 230hp mentioned above??


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Ok i found it. DSport magazine @ XS Engineering using a Dynamic DTS Dynamometer:
Baseline: 222.1 WHP, 230.3 LB-FT TQ
Eneos Synthetic Oil: 226.5 WHP, 233.8 LB-FT TQ
Sun Auto Hyper Ground Cables: 228.6 WHP, 236.6 LB-FT TQ
Greddy SE Exhaust: 232.3 WHP, 236.8 LB-FT TQ

This might not be amby's almighty Real world dyno but these are the numbers they got. From the picture it looks like the Dyno is outside but they didn't say the temperature.

 

OK, how much HP does an Evo have? It's about 280 HP now then isn't it? How can an Evo, with roughly 280 HP put down 240 WHP while a car with 237 HP can put down 220 WHP? That makes absolutely no sense. Clearly either A. the numbers posted have been altered or B. we're comparing to completely different dynos/dyno sessions.

 

doesn't matter, alot more than any RA's.

Actually do you know of a major engine malfunction you can comment on for the RA, actually maybe even the EVO? I don't surf all the other threads so if anyone would know you would.

 

How many 2009 Ralliarts are actually out there now? The 2009 WRX came out before the Ralliart, of course you're going to see more problems in an older car than a new car.
I already posted a list of issues with the evo in another thread. One owner has already had to have their car lemon lawed.

 

Thats funny I swear Mitsu and every car mag/northamerican car show has publicly noted it to be 291hp? Could they all be actually wrong and it's 280hp amby?

 

Fine, 290 (I believe it used to be 280ish), that only makes the dyno results even more unbelievable. Apparently didn't realize where I was going when I pointed out that a higher HP car (now with a 54 HP advantage) only appears to dyno 10 HP more than the Ralliart.

 

Impossible to know but you can't deny that some are.

 

Actually, this is concerning me. I was shopping the 09 WRX (pretty sure to buy one) and I keep reading more and more of these bearing failures. I have not seen any with recent builds, but the newest was a guy that bought one new in October and had about 3200 miles when it went. As usual with most new engine problems, if its going to go, it is usually pretty fast.

After reading about the SST getting all off track with a MAF sensor going, that is really concerning. Who wants to be stuck somewhere with such a minor problem basically making the car dysfunctional?

Mitsu needs to do a 2009.5 edition and get a 5 speed in there!!!

 

We still don't know how many WRXs have been affected. We also don't know if the Ralliart will experience similar growing pains since the car is just that new. No one knew that the MS3 would experience motor mount issues till months after the car came out.

 

again...... you mean 20 more by your numbers above, I fear that you post so much that you forget what you actually say and how it affects other readers. post accurate numbers if your going to post something Amby, its in your best interest for not getting ridiculed anymore. its not 290 or what ever. it's 291. yes that is trivial for everyone else but with you that 290 becomes 285 or 295 or 280 depending on what works in your favor for what ever argument your ranting on. Until that RA is Dyno'd by other rep tuners to confirm or suggest otherwise, do us a favor and chill with the number posting

 

Where are u gettin 10 HP from? Its about 18-23 HP difference. Ok so if someone dynos the WRX @ 229 WHP ur gonna argue with them and say "Oh no how could it be just 10 WHP less than the STi which is 300 HP crank!"

 

222 to 240 is 18. The exact numbers are irrelevant, you are simply avoiding the actual issue. It makes no difference if the Evo is 280ish, 290 or 291, it doesn't change the fact that something doesn't line up. How can a 237 HP car dyno 18 HP less than an Evo?