Provide facts. I'm sorry but you're just coming off as crazy now. The WRX puts down ridiculous 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times thus making your statement obviously wrong. The Ralliart does not post amazing times thus making the rated 237 HP likely. I highly suggest you do more research.

 

You yourself have to agree that the numbers are ridiculously high, Evos don't dyno that high.

 

Here's the difference, the issues with the WRX are known to Subaru and they have taken the actions necessary to rectify them (ie. they've stopped using the process that lead to the failures in the first place). The problem doesn't lie with the car itself but rather some parts that were made incorrectly. If the TC-SST has issues like overheating, it's an inherent design flaw.

 

What I find odd is how a problematic MAF sensor can lead to the transmission acting the way it did. Clearly the transmission is quite closely connected with the rest of the car. How will this affect tuning?

 

Mitsu has no business charging what they due for the RA, they've managed to price themselves right out of contention. You know you're in trouble when your getting trampled by a fwd cobalt! Its embarrassing.

They've structured their car's so terribly that its aggravating for the consumer to find a package that suits them. In canada the ralliart option list consists of a $5000 leather, recaro, stereo, etc. package or nothing at all. It is ridiculous to have such an all or nothing approach. I'm glad I didn't get the RA because I have a feeling that the '10/'11 models are going to be much more desirable and those who couldn't wait are going to have some regrets. In fact if the subi wasn't so bloody ugly they would gotten my $$$ already.

 

Evo's and STi's do dyno higher on that specific dyno. Now on the Mustang Dyno (which is the "real world" dyno u love) it would dyno lower.

 

great thread.
the 09 wrx is > ra for the money imo

 

But 2009 WRX's are failing so the actions taken for 2008's haven't fixed the matter. It's a fast car but the engines are junk so I guess if you are a gambler the WRX is for you but if you want something reliable look elsewhere.

 

Toyota and Honda?

 

Amby Your totally missing the point! I was not being serious! mearly poking fun at you which you didnt' even get. The wrx obvious has more than 150 but Everyone seems to have to explain things to you as you continually run away with peoples words and turn things around to make sense only to you! Stop being a b***h. go hassle the nerds on the wrx forms or do you already do that too?

 

If thats ur cup of tea sure

 

But what do they dyno? Do they dyno 290 HP? Do they dyno 270 HP?

 

I understood you were joking, I was pointing how absurd your argument was getting. As for the rest, I've been here 5 years, why would I leave now?

 

How is it a gamble? The number of motors having issues isn't huge, they've stopped using the production methods that caused the problems in the first place and Subaru is clearly covering all affected motors.

 

Why are 09's failing then? Sure Subaru is replacing the shortblocks and sometimes the whole engine but who wants to go through that on a new car? I know a couple of local people already that were looking at 09 WRX's but moved on (one just ordered a Ralliart instead) because the word is getting out that 09's have the ongoing problem.