Cobb AP: ?s on product, features, and various maps incl Perrin maps go here [merge]
Many aftermarket intakes create turbulence that impacts the MAF readings and its linearity. This can cause the extreme lean spots during operation. They are currently beating on their tuners to build additional maps with a few different intakes; I'd expect to see them within a month.
Negatives? Only the $700 price. It's a stretch to come up with anything bad to say about the AP. And when you sell the car you can flash it back to stock and sell the AP on eBay.
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Joined: Apr 2008
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From: PA
i decided not to flash to the econo map today after work. i worry about running too lean if i need to stomp on it to get around something in my travels.
i didnt buy an evo to save gas or find ways of saving gas. so i am just happy with my 20mpg commute each day. i can get up to 25 mpg on the perrin map but what's the fun in that?
i didnt buy an evo to save gas or find ways of saving gas. so i am just happy with my 20mpg commute each day. i can get up to 25 mpg on the perrin map but what's the fun in that?
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Joined: Jan 2009
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From: Seattle
Ok guys, little update on fuel... I went all over the place yesterday running errands.. A LOT of stop and go town driving, pulling in parking lots and running in and out, etc. I would say 65/35 highway/city, and around 75 miles total. Stage 1 still on car, average fuel ( from the computer ) 23.8 mpg, shifting at 2500 rpm and running 60 mph on the highway ( speed limit here is 55 ) I got on the car once REALLY hard, but other than that, it was easy driving.
After this tankful is out, I will flash to econ mode and reset the mileage and let you know the average.
Also did my first oil change yesterday at 1281 miles.
After this tankful is out, I will flash to econ mode and reset the mileage and let you know the average.
Also did my first oil change yesterday at 1281 miles.
Shifting at 2500 RPM ? WTF the car doesn't even start to breath before about 3000 RPM not sure that lugging the car around actually helps the gas mileage.
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Joined: Apr 2008
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From: PA
i already commented on that. apparently i don't know how to shift. i couldn't find a big enough eye roll icon for my reply. the wrong people are driving X's
It's a stretch to come up with anything bad to say about the AP.
Yep, really the $700 price tag is the only negative considering the "cost" of EcuFlash and logging tools for a laptop. Course, if you don't have a laptop you can get AP for less than a new laptop.
With the amount of tuners out there and people who know what they are doing with EcuFlash, I'd just go with it if someone reputable is in your area that can do it. If not (as in my case with the STi now) than the AP is a great choice. And like someone said, since you get to keep it and get all the basic maps for free, if you sell the car and sell it, you may make up a bit of the price.
With the amount of tuners out there and people who know what they are doing with EcuFlash, I'd just go with it if someone reputable is in your area that can do it. If not (as in my case with the STi now) than the AP is a great choice. And like someone said, since you get to keep it and get all the basic maps for free, if you sell the car and sell it, you may make up a bit of the price.
The AP is a great tool, and will help you read your check engine light error codes. We have several customers with APs and I think they have for the most part been happy. The early flashes could throw codes, but I think the current flashes seem to work well.
