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Old May 19, 2011 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Raptord
The excel files are a good start to getting your maps smoothed out, but for optimal results you need to spend some time doing it manually afterwards

Here's how my graph looks, I won't post my map since it's originally based on a tune by tscompusa (unless you dont mind Tom)

i dont mind.. just note it was only being setup for 3rd gear.. 4th gear uses more load so requires lower timing usually on higher load points based on boost curve when using lower oct fuels


edit: really no need to post the cells tho.. the graph says it all pretty much. nice job completing your tune. i see you got all gears completed now.. but if you want feel free..

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Old May 20, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Raptord
The excel files are a good start to getting your maps smoothed out, but for optimal results you need to spend some time doing it manually afterwards

Here's how my graph looks, I won't post my map since it's originally based on a tune by tscompusa (unless you dont mind Tom)

That actually looks pretty similar to my timing map but yours is a little bit smoother...I haven't tried the smoothing tool yet, I have been slowly smoothing mine manually...
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Old May 20, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 06MREvo
That actually looks pretty similar to my timing map but yours is a little bit smoother...I haven't tried the smoothing tool yet, I have been slowly smoothing mine manually...
i dont use any tools myself.. just do it manually while looking at the 3d map. just dont focus 100% on smoothing.. it needs to be functional also
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Old May 20, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
i dont use any tools myself.. just do it manually while looking at the 3d map. just dont focus 100% on smoothing.. it needs to be functional also
Yeah I remember reading somewhere else that you said you don't use any smoothing tools...I've spent a decent amount of time on my maps so far and I'm still not happy with them. I put a pretty aggressive Mivec map in a little while ago and had to back timing down a bit but thats fine with me because the car still feels good on lower boost...It's all a big learning process & 3d graphs are awesome!
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Old May 20, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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talk about a learning curve. today i accidentally learned how big a difference 1-2 degrees of timing retard can make.

i upped my spool timing a bit, and brought the power on nicely, but didnt notice it was causing me to hit higher loads and thus about 2ish degrees lower timing.

check it out. blue line is today, other two lines are my last revision. from 4400rpm (pretty much exactly where it peaks and starts to drop off) on the blue log is running 1-2 degrees less timing.
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lesson learned - use excel to graph stuff and compare, as its super useful. i never thought that little a timing difference could make that big a difference.
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Old May 20, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 06MREvo
Yeah I remember reading somewhere else that you said you don't use any smoothing tools...I've spent a decent amount of time on my maps so far and I'm still not happy with them. I put a pretty aggressive Mivec map in a little while ago and had to back timing down a bit but thats fine with me because the car still feels good on lower boost...It's all a big learning process & 3d graphs are awesome!
I didn't use any tools either but thanks to Tom I had a pretty solid starting point

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Old May 20, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by killerpenguin21
talk about a learning curve. today i accidentally learned how big a difference 1-2 degrees of timing retard can make.

i upped my spool timing a bit, and brought the power on nicely, but didnt notice it was causing me to hit higher loads and thus about 2ish degrees lower timing.

check it out. blue line is today, other two lines are my last revision. from 4400rpm (pretty much exactly where it peaks and starts to drop off) on the blue log is running 1-2 degrees less timing.
lesson learned - use excel to graph stuff and compare, as its super useful. i never thought that little a timing difference could make that big a difference.
To me it looks like you started the pull 450rpm sooner than the other pulls which would cause you to hit different cells. Are you doing the pulls on the same stretch of road?

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Old May 20, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by evo8426
To me it looks like you started the pull 450rpm sooner than the other pulls which would cause you to hit different cells. Are you doing the pulls on the same stretch of road?
it is a tad earlier yes, and yes all the same road. i did 3 other pulls some starting a little higher and they all show the same thing, that was just the only graph i saved.
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Old May 20, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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My attempt at smoothing.
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Old May 20, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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Couple spots that could use a bit more work (peak torque mostly from the looks of it), but not bad at all overall.
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Old May 20, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Raptord
Couple spots that could use a bit more work (peak torque mostly from the looks of it), but not bad at all overall.
Its a slight work in progress. I make little changes day by day and see how the car reacts. And, thank you.
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Old May 20, 2011 | 11:13 PM
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This is mine. dyno graph in my sig. I'm not really good at understanding tuning. But is my tune ok?

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Old May 20, 2011 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hmsevo9mr
This is mine. dyno graph in my sig. I'm not really good at understanding tuning. But is my tune ok?
Thats a fuel map, not a timing map...
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Old May 20, 2011 | 11:32 PM
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oh sorry.
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Old May 21, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Can't read anything, pic is way too small.
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