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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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HOW TO: Improving SST Throttle Response

Here's a tweak that I have been using for a while. For those who aren't aware, the various SST modes (Normal, Sport, S-Sport) affects the shift point (RPM), shift speed, clamping pressure as well as throttle response.

Apart from the SST Throttle Requested Torque Ramp Rate tables which you can tweak, there's a few other "Unknown" tables which can be tweaked for further response improvement.

But first, thanks to Richard (richardjh) and Bryan (razorlab) for the SST Tables thread back in 2012: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...nt-thread.html
However, the SST Unknown #1 to #5 tables are not correctly named. Richard subsequently provided the correct description which prompted me to explore further.

Here's how I have named them in my XML:



The tables of interest here are the Unknown #3 to #5 for the various SST modes. For those looking for a quick and dirty way to tweak them is to simply copy the values from the 2011 onwards model for table SST Unknown #3 and #4.
You should see noticeable improvement for both the Normal and Sport mode.
Unknown #5 (Super Sport) table is the same for 2008 to 2014 models from what I have seen so far.

Have fun and Merry Christmas!

2008 Model:



2011+ Model:

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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 05:57 PM
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*Reserved for XML Definitions*

52690019 / 52690021 - 2008 USDM SST

Code:
<scaling name="AcceleratorPedal1024 %" units="%" toexpr="100*x/1024" frexpr="x/100*1024" format="%.1f" min="0" max="100" inc="0.5" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>

<table name="SST Unknown #3 - APP Mapping/Ratio, NORMAL Mode, Gears 2+" category="SST" address="585e3" type="3D" level="3" scaling="uint8">
  <table name="Accelerator Pedal" address="61874" type="X Axis" elements="27" scaling="AcceleratorPedal1024 %"/>
  <table name="RPM" address="618ec" type="Y Axis" elements="12" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="SST Unknown #4 - APP Mapping/Ratio, SPORT Mode, Gears 2+" category="SST" address="5872f" type="3D" level="3" scaling="uint8">
  <table name="Accelerator Pedal" address="61874" type="X Axis" elements="27" scaling="AcceleratorPedal1024 %"/>
  <table name="RPM" address="618ec" type="Y Axis" elements="12" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="SST Unknown #5 - APP Mapping/Ratio, S-Sport Mode, Gears 2+" category="SST" address="5887b" type="3D" level="3" scaling="uint8">
  <table name="Accelerator Pedal" address="61874" type="X Axis" elements="27" scaling="AcceleratorPedal1024 %"/>
  <table name="RPM" address="618ec" type="Y Axis" elements="12" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

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Old Dec 26, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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I've tuned these tables as well. Try the following scale for APP and you'll see it makes a lot more sense.

52690019 / 52690021 - 2008 USDM SST


Code:
<scaling name="AcceleratorPedal1024 %" units="%" toexpr="100*x/1024" frexpr="x/100*1024" format="%.1f" min="0" max="100" inc="0.5" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>

<table name="SST Unknown #3 - APP Mapping/Ratio, NORMAL Mode, Gears 2+" category="SST" address="585e3" type="3D" level="3" scaling="uint8">
  <table name="Accelerator Pedal" address="61874" type="X Axis" elements="27" scaling="AcceleratorPedal1024 %"/>
  <table name="RPM" address="618ec" type="Y Axis" elements="12" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="SST Unknown #4 - APP Mapping/Ratio, SPORT Mode, Gears 2+" category="SST" address="5872f" type="3D" level="3" scaling="uint8">
  <table name="Accelerator Pedal" address="61874" type="X Axis" elements="27" scaling="AcceleratorPedal1024 %"/>
  <table name="RPM" address="618ec" type="Y Axis" elements="12" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

<table name="SST Unknown #5 - APP Mapping/Ratio, S-Sport Mode, Gears 2+" category="SST" address="5887b" type="3D" level="3" scaling="uint8">
  <table name="Accelerator Pedal" address="61874" type="X Axis" elements="27" scaling="AcceleratorPedal1024 %"/>
  <table name="RPM" address="618ec" type="Y Axis" elements="12" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>
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Old Dec 26, 2014 | 08:00 PM
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Images are not showing up for me...
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Old Dec 28, 2014 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rpacheco
I've tuned these tables as well. Try the following scale for APP and you'll see it makes a lot more sense.
Yeah, thanks a bunch for the APP scaling. Have updated my post with that.
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by itzwolf
Images are not showing up for me...

Same...and I'd love to see them :/
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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 02:52 PM
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None of the attachments in the first post are opening.
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 04:19 AM
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Not sure what happened previously to the images, but hopefully it's fixed now. At least it showed up ok for me.
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RS200Z
Not sure what happened previously to the images, but hopefully it's fixed now. At least it showed up ok for me.
Work now for me. Thanks. Just had to login to view (didn't previously work at all).

Thanks again dude!
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 02:39 PM
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ho have the 53050012 hex with all the correct xml with this tables also?

i have now 53050009, with this update rom the car will be run bether?

regards
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