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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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I have a good 3 cars in the dyno section with AMAZING results on ecu boost.. so its not like its me. (Plus boosted tuning is very well experienced with ecu boost, hes been doing it for 3 years or more now)

1. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ane-28psi.html

2. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...e85-500hp.html

3. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...oct-magic.html

I was all excited to work on it with my car after seeing these results on paper from other customer cars, but unfortunately it wasn't what i expected, and there's more to be desired down low.. cant really say much more then that.

btw np.. i have a few more bbk's to finish also :P

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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 01:46 PM
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DISCLAIMER - Im not trying to start a fight/argument. I am only sharing data and backing up my claims made in this thread.

Here is some data I dug up from "ONE" of my times having ECU boost on my car. I have had ECU boost on my current car about 3-4 times and ran it on my previous EVO 9 2-3 times. I probably have gone back and forth between MBC & ECU boost more times then anyone.

Also, as some may or may not know. I helped figure out ECU boost and wrote both How-To's on this forum.

Anyways, on to the data (my favorite part)

Test Car - 04 RS, Stock block/head, FP Black w/ FP 25psi WGA, HKS 280 cams, BR ported exhaust mani & intake mani, Mil.spec 65mm TB, WORKS 3" O2 & DP, BR TP & Catback, EVO 9 DV, SpoolingUp COP, ETC LICP, UCIP & 3.8" garret IC, FIC 1050s, Walbro

As you can see in the ECU boost chart, the boost error is never more then -/+ .5psi and the actual boost curve is following my target boost curve so well, that NO error correction is needed (Error correction is enabled and fully working). This is perfectly tuned ECU boost.

The MBC spools faster even though the ECU boost run has an advantage, as it starts about 60RPM sooner. Also, the MBC is more consistent though the run.

*Note - On the MBC run TPS actually hit 99% at 3843RPM, which is basically 100%

Enjoy!

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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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Does anyone have a link to purchace one of these "stiffer spring" Hallman MBCs?
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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Is the problem possible due to lack of resolution on the stock ecu boost maps? Maybe we need more resolution right where peak torque is so we can be more aggressive with the wgdc values. Has anyone rescaled the rpm on the y axis to give more resolution between 3000-4000 rpm?

Originally Posted by Boosted Tuning
DISCLAIMER - Im not trying to start a fight/argument. I am only sharing data and backing up my claims made in this thread.

Here is some data I dug up from "ONE" of my times having ECU boost on my car. I have had ECU boost on my current car about 3-4 times and ran it on my previous EVO 9 2-3 times. I probably have gone back and forth between MBC & ECU boost more times then anyone.

Also, as some may or may not know. I helped figure out ECU boost and wrote both How-To's on this forum.

Anyways, on to the data (my favorite part)

Test Car - 04 RS, Stock block/head, FP Black w/ FP 25psi WGA, HKS 280 cams, BR ported exhaust mani & intake mani, Mil.spec 65mm TB, WORKS 3" O2 & DP, BR TP & Catback, EVO 9 DV, SpoolingUp COP, ETC LICP, UCIP & 3.8" garret IC, FIC 1050s, Walbro

As you can see in the ECU boost chart, the boost error is never more then -/+ .5psi and the actual boost curve is following my target boost curve so well, that NO correction is needed. This is perfectly tuned ECU boost.

Also, the ECU boost run has an advantage, as it starts about 60RPM sooner then the MBC run.

*Note - On the MBC run TPS actually hit 99% at 3843RPM, which is basically.
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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I don't want to hijack this thread but it seems as good as any.

I have an AEM Tru-Boost and Grimmspeed 3-port EBCS. The Tru-Boost is being used as a gauge only. Stock map sensor as far as I know. I still need an Omni or JDM map sensor to log boost, correct? The Tru-Boost doesn't give me that ability?
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Blitz
Does anyone have a link to purchace one of these "stiffer spring" Hallman MBCs?
You have to call hallman or email them and ask for the Heavy Spring.

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I don't want to hijack this thread but it seems as good as any.

I have an AEM Tru-Boost and Grimmspeed 3-port EBCS. The Tru-Boost is being used as a gauge only. Stock map sensor as far as I know. I still need an Omni or JDM map sensor to log boost, correct? The Tru-Boost doesn't give me that ability?
Is your truboost the boost controller version though? theres different types from what ive read and they cant be logged in evoscan i dont think, so you'd need a omnipower 4 bar map sensor and the ecu will need slightly configured to use it properly with the car in place of stock map sensor.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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Nice!!
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Guerillah
Is the problem possible due to lack of resolution on the stock ecu boost maps? Maybe we need more resolution right where peak torque is so we can be more aggressive with the wgdc values. Has anyone rescaled the rpm on the y axis to give more resolution between 3000-4000 rpm?
I'd love to try this out...it seems feasible that this "could" be part of it, other than what roadspike and tscomp have figured out
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Tarmacisback69
Fp black isnt going to spool that much slower then this bbk.
"That much slower" is relative. I suppose in the grand scheme of things a 42R isn't going to spool "that much slower" than a Black. I guess we should all be running 42R's eh?
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Why are people so effin stupid? Yo dude, forget every other turbo ever created, run my magic kaleidoscope pump!!! I can run 2 second 1/4 mile times and spool at idle!!!

Slow cars!!!

-Jalal
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MJ23FE
Why are people so effin stupid? Yo dude, forget every other turbo ever created, run my magic kaleidoscope pump!!! I can run 2 second 1/4 mile times and spool at idle!!!

Slow cars!!!

-Jalal
How can I place my order? Ill even come pick it up, so I don't have to pay shipping...
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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We're all Evo brothers man. In the grand scheme of things, let's just be happy we got so many options on our platform.
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Originally Posted by Thoe99
We're all Evo brothers man. In the grand scheme of things, let's just be happy we got so many options on our platform.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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Chill out on the flaming, please. Post removed.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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thank you for your kind words

we wont be at OCMD, there is a lack of evo turnout there.

Cheers

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