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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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Lol thanks for your input on how I should spend my money. It's like you know what I want out of my evo more than I do.

And I never stated I was too lazy to downshift. Why would I downshift if I have a turbo setup that can efficiently spool enough in 5th gear to pass people? That's exactly what I was going for. Again, great observation and thank you for trying.
Awesome reply! I couldn't agree more.
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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pffft, I still say downshifting ftw Keep driving interesting. I'll use my DD if I want to be lazy.

Kracka, you are a Texan, you guys are supposed to do it big!
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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pffft, I still say downshifting ftw Keep driving interesting. I'll use my DD if I want to be lazy.

Kracka, you are a Texan, you guys are supposed to do it big!
BIG powerband
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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BIG powerband
4000-9500 is pretty big if you ask me
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mean4g63
You act like the 2.5 spools a TON better than the EF3. You are talking a bit more torque and only 200 RPM. lol. Seriously not going to be enough of a difference to warrant your justification. Personally an EF2 sounds more on your speed.


Also too lazy to down shift? seriously? Why do you even have an evo? Why don't you get an auto-diesel or something?
We don't actually know how well the EF2.5 spools yet. I am still experimenting with preload and posting my results. Mine spools the way it does with only 2 full turns of preload... wonder how it'll spool with 2.5 full turns or even 3 or 4? Time to find out.
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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I'd be happy to send you an EVOScan log of my EF2 for you to compare with your EF2.5. It would be nice to find a similarly modded EF3 car to toss in the mix as well. Yea yea different cars different weather yadda yadda yadda but you would at have something.
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DisgustipatedM3
We don't actually know how well the EF2.5 spools yet. I am still experimenting with preload and posting my results. Mine spools the way it does with only 2 full turns of preload... wonder how it'll spool with 2.5 full turns or even 3 or 4? Time to find out.
Ef2.5 results so far.... 1 spools 25 psi @4000, 1 spools at 4100, and another at 4400. The avg non-ported shroud EF3 seems to spool around 4300 ish give or take. So I think its safe to say it's "about" 200 RPM faster. I stand by what I said before. If you are still on the "spool like an EF2 & FP Green" hype train still you are sadly mistaken.

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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramonski
Lol thanks for your input on how I should spend my money. It's like you know what I want out of my evo more than I do.

And I never stated I was too lazy to downshift. Why would I downshift if I have a turbo setup that can efficiently spool enough in 5th gear to pass people? That's exactly what I was going for. Again, great observation and thank you for trying.
If it's only 5th gear your talking about....it has such a high load that it will spool even an EF3 quickly. Hell in 5th gear I thought my BWS259 spooled quick (it flows equivalent to the FP Black/Ef4), and that was on a single scroll housing. Honestly based on your responses, and justification I am assuming this is really your first experience with moderately sized aftermarket turbos....

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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
I'd be happy to send you an EVOScan log of my EF2 for you to compare with your EF2.5. It would be nice to find a similarly modded EF3 car to toss in the mix as well. Yea yea different cars different weather yadda yadda yadda but you would at have something.
I tried that before. No one wanted to compare and post up. I have multiple stock turbo log on pump gas @28 psi if you want to post up and compare. However mine is a non-mivec Evo 7 FYI. Let me know.

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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 03:10 PM
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Got my EF3 installed this weekend along with some other go-fast parts. Previously at 330hp on a mustang dyno on the stock 8 turbo, but going to STM for tuning tomorrow. Hopefully I can report back with some promising gains tomorrow.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Craig King
Got my EF3 installed this weekend along with some other go-fast parts. Previously at 330hp on a mustang dyno on the stock 8 turbo, but going to STM for tuning tomorrow. Hopefully I can report back with some promising gains tomorrow.

Any update yet?
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramonski
Well im heading back to my tuner tomorrow to put the finishing touches on my tune with my ef2.5. I'll try and get the info and a possible dyno graph on here tomorrow afternoon.
Same same
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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Just made it home from STM ... spent 6 hours driving to/from and another 8 hours actually at the STM facility. I'll post up some official data tomorrow, but I'm VERY happy with the EF3. I picked up almost 70whp on a Mustang Dyno at STM with the EF3.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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you gained 70 whp peak over a 9.8 evo8 turbo from an EF3? There's gotta be more to that story, even on STM's heartbreaker mustang.
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mean4g63
Ef2.5 results so far.... 1 spools 25 psi @4000, 1 spools at 4100, and another at 4400. The avg non-ported shroud EF3 seems to spool around 4300 ish give or take. So I think its safe to say it's "about" 200 RPM faster. I stand by what I said before. If you are still on the "spool like an EF2 & FP Green" hype train still you are sadly mistaken.
FYI I checked the preload on my WGA 2 days ago. It was set to ZERO preload. So my dyno I posted is the spool at ZERO preload.

I set it to 3 half turns. I will try to put up a virtual dyno of the preload before and after. Then I will go to 6 half turns preload and see how it spools.

So I am going to assume all the results we have seen thus far is with IMPROPER PRELOAD and possibly 18 psi WGA springs, not the 23's. I am going to guess that I can improve spool by 300+ RPM with proper preload. Will test and post results in this thread and my thread.

Originally Posted by mean4g63
I tried that before. No one wanted to compare and post up. I have multiple stock turbo log on pump gas @28 psi if you want to post up and compare. However mine is a non-mivec Evo 7 FYI. Let me know.
Send me your logs and I will run them in virtual dyno with SAE correction. Please send me the approx temperature and your barometric readings in your location.

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