Borgwarner Twin Scroll 7670 With Dyno Graph
R/T, I didn't know you were going to run the Vipec, whatever you do, when you run across a problem with it and find the solution don't tell him about it! You think I'm hard to deal with, hahahahahahahaha, **** I'm a poster child for the tame compared to him! It's the reason we stopped using/promoting it. I found two problems, both of which I was met with complete arrogance and refusal to admit a problem on. Later a notice came out about the problem I found and solutions...... The Vipec does work well but the personality conflict, wow.
Last edited by R/TErnie; Nov 8, 2011 at 06:23 AM.
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, I will switch my AEM to Vi-Pec, definetely.
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R/T, I didn't know you were going to run the Vipec, whatever you do, when you run across a problem with it and find the solution don't tell him about it! You think I'm hard to deal with, hahahahahahahaha, **** I'm a poster child for the tame compared to him! It's the reason we stopped using/promoting it. I found two problems, both of which I was met with complete arrogance and refusal to admit a problem on. Later a notice came out about the problem I found and solutions...... The Vipec does work well but the personality conflict, wow.
They're good to deal with, and I love the software/hardware - if you've used Vipecs then you'd be right at home with it.
Ben isn't posting, I know he's tired.
Bad news..........the car is blown up. I guess at this point we can figure the turbo was junk when it was here as it's the only thing that makes sense. Ben left here with the car, ran two 20 minute sessions with the car last week and then in the 3rd session the turbo took a crap.
He got the new turbo from Geoff, got it on and ran yesterday. 10 laps in the car melted the tips off the spark plugs. It didn't go from perfect and running 20 minute sessions trouble free to detonating and burning plugs off for no reason. I asked for a log but what I got was a short time of driving and idle on the log, no WOT or boost at all, not sure why. I have Ben checking a few more simple things like the double pumper relay and the fuel pressure regulator boost source, if those come back fine then I can only assume the new turbo is flowing a hell of a lot more air than the old one that broke and the car went lean from it.......
I am sick to my stomach over it.
Bad news..........the car is blown up. I guess at this point we can figure the turbo was junk when it was here as it's the only thing that makes sense. Ben left here with the car, ran two 20 minute sessions with the car last week and then in the 3rd session the turbo took a crap.
He got the new turbo from Geoff, got it on and ran yesterday. 10 laps in the car melted the tips off the spark plugs. It didn't go from perfect and running 20 minute sessions trouble free to detonating and burning plugs off for no reason. I asked for a log but what I got was a short time of driving and idle on the log, no WOT or boost at all, not sure why. I have Ben checking a few more simple things like the double pumper relay and the fuel pressure regulator boost source, if those come back fine then I can only assume the new turbo is flowing a hell of a lot more air than the old one that broke and the car went lean from it.......
I am sick to my stomach over it.
Ben isn't posting, I know he's tired.
Bad news..........the car is blown up. I guess at this point we can figure the turbo was junk when it was here as it's the only thing that makes sense. Ben left here with the car, ran two 20 minute sessions with the car last week and then in the 3rd session the turbo took a crap.
He got the new turbo from Geoff, got it on and ran yesterday. 10 laps in the car melted the tips off the spark plugs. It didn't go from perfect and running 20 minute sessions trouble free to detonating and burning plugs off for no reason. I asked for a log but what I got was a short time of driving and idle on the log, no WOT or boost at all, not sure why. I have Ben checking a few more simple things like the double pumper relay and the fuel pressure regulator boost source, if those come back fine then I can only assume the new turbo is flowing a hell of a lot more air than the old one that broke and the car went lean from it.......
I am sick to my stomach over it.
Bad news..........the car is blown up. I guess at this point we can figure the turbo was junk when it was here as it's the only thing that makes sense. Ben left here with the car, ran two 20 minute sessions with the car last week and then in the 3rd session the turbo took a crap.
He got the new turbo from Geoff, got it on and ran yesterday. 10 laps in the car melted the tips off the spark plugs. It didn't go from perfect and running 20 minute sessions trouble free to detonating and burning plugs off for no reason. I asked for a log but what I got was a short time of driving and idle on the log, no WOT or boost at all, not sure why. I have Ben checking a few more simple things like the double pumper relay and the fuel pressure regulator boost source, if those come back fine then I can only assume the new turbo is flowing a hell of a lot more air than the old one that broke and the car went lean from it.......
I am sick to my stomach over it.
Best of luck in sorting everything out, Ben.
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Dang that sucks big time!
How bad is the damage?
It might explain the odd numbers/backpressure from the dyno like you said though. If the shaft bent during one of the early dyno pulls then that would not allow it to spin as freely right?
That would then lead to increased backpressure and thus being more knock prone. I think you might be on to something there.
The problem now goes from wanting to know if the EFR's make the power they have been hyped to make to will they blow up my motor? I know I am rethinking placing an order for one unless they can give a real good reason for the failures.
How bad is the damage?
It might explain the odd numbers/backpressure from the dyno like you said though. If the shaft bent during one of the early dyno pulls then that would not allow it to spin as freely right?
That would then lead to increased backpressure and thus being more knock prone. I think you might be on to something there.
The problem now goes from wanting to know if the EFR's make the power they have been hyped to make to will they blow up my motor? I know I am rethinking placing an order for one unless they can give a real good reason for the failures.
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Ben isn't posting, I know he's tired.
Bad news..........the car is blown up. I guess at this point we can figure the turbo was junk when it was here as it's the only thing that makes sense. Ben left here with the car, ran two 20 minute sessions with the car last week and then in the 3rd session the turbo took a crap.
He got the new turbo from Geoff, got it on and ran yesterday. 10 laps in the car melted the tips off the spark plugs. It didn't go from perfect and running 20 minute sessions trouble free to detonating and burning plugs off for no reason. I asked for a log but what I got was a short time of driving and idle on the log, no WOT or boost at all, not sure why. I have Ben checking a few more simple things like the double pumper relay and the fuel pressure regulator boost source, if those come back fine then I can only assume the new turbo is flowing a hell of a lot more air than the old one that broke and the car went lean from it.......
I am sick to my stomach over it.
Bad news..........the car is blown up. I guess at this point we can figure the turbo was junk when it was here as it's the only thing that makes sense. Ben left here with the car, ran two 20 minute sessions with the car last week and then in the 3rd session the turbo took a crap.
He got the new turbo from Geoff, got it on and ran yesterday. 10 laps in the car melted the tips off the spark plugs. It didn't go from perfect and running 20 minute sessions trouble free to detonating and burning plugs off for no reason. I asked for a log but what I got was a short time of driving and idle on the log, no WOT or boost at all, not sure why. I have Ben checking a few more simple things like the double pumper relay and the fuel pressure regulator boost source, if those come back fine then I can only assume the new turbo is flowing a hell of a lot more air than the old one that broke and the car went lean from it.......
I am sick to my stomach over it.
Whattt? Another blown engine??????? How did the turbo perform??? This can't be happening!!!
Ben isn't posting, I know he's tired.
Bad news..........the car is blown up. I guess at this point we can figure the turbo was junk when it was here as it's the only thing that makes sense. Ben left here with the car, ran two 20 minute sessions with the car last week and then in the 3rd session the turbo took a crap.
He got the new turbo from Geoff, got it on and ran yesterday. 10 laps in the car melted the tips off the spark plugs. It didn't go from perfect and running 20 minute sessions trouble free to detonating and burning plugs off for no reason. I asked for a log but what I got was a short time of driving and idle on the log, no WOT or boost at all, not sure why. I have Ben checking a few more simple things like the double pumper relay and the fuel pressure regulator boost source, if those come back fine then I can only assume the new turbo is flowing a hell of a lot more air than the old one that broke and the car went lean from it.......
I am sick to my stomach over it.
Bad news..........the car is blown up. I guess at this point we can figure the turbo was junk when it was here as it's the only thing that makes sense. Ben left here with the car, ran two 20 minute sessions with the car last week and then in the 3rd session the turbo took a crap.
He got the new turbo from Geoff, got it on and ran yesterday. 10 laps in the car melted the tips off the spark plugs. It didn't go from perfect and running 20 minute sessions trouble free to detonating and burning plugs off for no reason. I asked for a log but what I got was a short time of driving and idle on the log, no WOT or boost at all, not sure why. I have Ben checking a few more simple things like the double pumper relay and the fuel pressure regulator boost source, if those come back fine then I can only assume the new turbo is flowing a hell of a lot more air than the old one that broke and the car went lean from it.......
I am sick to my stomach over it.
if it flowed that much more, thats great news. how ever, the motor melting **** is horrible, as said before so much time and effort has been put into this car these last few weeks. very disheartning.
wish you the best Ben!
for ben: what was your mph on the back straight with the old turbo vs the new turbo?
wish you the best Ben!
for ben: what was your mph on the back straight with the old turbo vs the new turbo?
Last edited by evosdad; Nov 9, 2011 at 10:06 AM.