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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
yes 650 easy with your mod list.. also you're banned from making power until you change the fuel pump to the buschur double.
I'm workin on it, I'm workin on it
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCain
ah, I see. I've been trying to find out more info on those two turbos, but there just isn't a lot out there. My stroker setup is all MAP, and I was going to go with a FP black, but honestly, I love dealing with MAP, so I may opt for the EF4 instead. We'll see. They've been very good to me.
I will say this either way you go you cant lose.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
well i can tell you that the walbro outflows the dw so if you swapped pumps and you seen a massive difference then there you go.. your old pump was half dead.

also it sounds odd you're running out of fuel so easily with that 71hta.. your tuner might not have your injectors scaled right and it could be minimizing their max capabilities.

off the top of my head i think you should be able to get around 500 out of 1200's on stock fuel pressure if the pumps there.
You probably missed that both pumps are on a rewire. Please direct me to one test that says the walbro outflows the DW pump on a rewire. Would love to prove the AMS flow bench wrong and the MAP performance bench wrong.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 02:25 AM
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I'm so up in the air between a black and the ef4. In my situation, I've done t3 setups, I've been wanting to try out a stock frame setup, which is why I bought the evo, it has the best stock frame turbo market available right now.

In my case, it's either a journal bearing black for 1200 used, or a new ef4 converted from my 9 turbo for 1500. I think spool would be able the same since it's a journal bearing, so I'm leaning toward the ef4 since it's a mere 300 more.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCain
I'm so up in the air between a black and the ef4. In my situation, I've done t3 setups, I've been wanting to try out a stock frame setup, which is why I bought the evo, it has the best stock frame turbo market available right now.

In my case, it's either a journal bearing black for 1200 used, or a new ef4 converted from my 9 turbo for 1500. I think spool would be able the same since it's a journal bearing, so I'm leaning toward the ef4 since it's a mere 300 more.
The black prob still will spool a bit faster. Idk being I don't have a stock housing one mine. Like it was said the ef4 has a larger wheel on the intake side so it will spool a little slower but for what its worth you don't even notice it. At least I don't and I am not to worried about a few 100 rpms. I enjoy the car every time I drive it and thats whats important.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by asubennett
You probably missed that both pumps are on a rewire. Please direct me to one test that says the walbro outflows the DW pump on a rewire. Would love to prove the AMS flow bench wrong and the MAP performance bench wrong.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ve...mp-wiring.html
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCain
I'm so up in the air between a black and the ef4. In my situation, I've done t3 setups, I've been wanting to try out a stock frame setup, which is why I bought the evo, it has the best stock frame turbo market available right now.

In my case, it's either a journal bearing black for 1200 used, or a new ef4 converted from my 9 turbo for 1500. I think spool would be able the same since it's a journal bearing, so I'm leaning toward the ef4 since it's a mere 300 more.
You seem to have made your decision in this post.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:21 AM
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touche!
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:25 AM
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https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/au...pump-test.html

Who knows who is right. I like the AMS data a little more.
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Waiting on Nate to get back to me, I'm 2sec from purchasing an EF4.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCain
Waiting on Nate to get back to me, I'm 2sec from purchasing an EF4.
Get with Adam. His screen name is: maperformance
I just sent him a PM so I know he is online. Welcome to the family.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCain
Waiting on Nate to get back to me, I'm 2sec from purchasing an EF4.
You're Nate's next phone call, dude is always on the phone it seems
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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lmao, taking to him right now. It's like a skype date. haha

Nate hooked me up with my stroker bottom end, so I'll stick with him for the turbo too. Just seems fair, and I love the customer service from MAP.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 10:56 AM
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EF4 for sure man!!!
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by asubennett
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/au...pump-test.html

Who knows who is right. I like the AMS data a little more.
That data to me is sketchy being he didn't tell how they were tested at all. Just flow #s. Was that stock wireing? Were they rewired? Just says at 14v. that tells me that more then likely stock wireing. At least Mr Fred took the time to do the pumps both ways and then come up with his data.
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