FP Zero/Zephyr Dyno Results Thread
There are solutions and everyone is *****ing about cost. STM FatFab and MAP made bolt on down pipes and everyone complains about the price.
FP is damned either way. Oh well it will weed out the dummies who will not do it right and then post up complaints about the product because they screwed it up.
FP is damned either way. Oh well it will weed out the dummies who will not do it right and then post up complaints about the product because they screwed it up.
There are solutions and everyone is *****ing about cost. STM FatFab and MAP made bolt on down pipes and everyone complains about the price.
FP is damned either way. Oh well it will weed out the dummies who will not do it right and then post up complaints about the product because they screwed it up.
FP is damned either way. Oh well it will weed out the dummies who will not do it right and then post up complaints about the product because they screwed it up.

IMO at least one vendor should be able to come up with something especially if someone is waving money for it to happen. I have studied the pictures of everyones offerings and compared them to OEM fitment pictures and it looks very possible to make an o2 housing that bolts up to an OEM location downpipe and not cost $700 since it does not require the extra piping and bends.
There is an offering for the DSM almost identical to what I want, but the new SS housing appears as though it would give plenty of room to make it recirculate.
Last edited by evo8426; Feb 21, 2015 at 07:02 AM.
There are solutions and everyone is *****ing about cost. STM FatFab and MAP made bolt on down pipes and everyone complains about the price.
FP is damned either way. Oh well it will weed out the dummies who will not do it right and then post up complaints about the product because they screwed it up.
FP is damned either way. Oh well it will weed out the dummies who will not do it right and then post up complaints about the product because they screwed it up.
Why would you have to hack up the down pipe? You have to replace your stock style downpipe with the STM or Map down pipe.
I've said it in another thread...not a single bolt on solution for me. I don't want to have to hack a brand new $700+ downpipe as soon as it hits my doorstep, I am not going to hack my current exhaust so I can return to OEM if I ever desire, and I am not going to modify a Beatrush underpanel for a dump tube. I have messaged many vendors on this site and not a single one is willing to produce what I have been asking for 
IMO at least one vendor should be able to come up with something especially if someone is waving money for it to happen. I have studied the pictures of everyones offerings and compared them to OEM fitment pictures and it looks very possible to make an o2 housing that bolts up to an OEM location downpipe and not cost $700 since it does not require the extra piping and bends.
There is an offering for the DSM almost identical to what I want, but the new SS housing appears as though it would give plenty of room to make it recirculate.


IMO at least one vendor should be able to come up with something especially if someone is waving money for it to happen. I have studied the pictures of everyones offerings and compared them to OEM fitment pictures and it looks very possible to make an o2 housing that bolts up to an OEM location downpipe and not cost $700 since it does not require the extra piping and bends.
There is an offering for the DSM almost identical to what I want, but the new SS housing appears as though it would give plenty of room to make it recirculate.

Well because you have an unusual setup you would need to either take your car there to have something custom made or be willing to have some modifications done. They can't make a custom piece without the car. The best option would be to ask them to make it a little longer then you can cut off your flange and use a butt connection band clamp. But it would still take some work to fit up. It would be doable with hand tools.
I am thinking of going FP Zero or Zephyr also, as i do like your products and i think it would cost less than changing to a complete T3 - T4 set up.
However, being an international customer. i would just like to confirm your views of customer service / warranty is with FP?
Unfortunately, where i reside; i have heard various negative stories of how 'bad' FP is to deal with, should something go wrong (allegedly with oil leaks and bearing movement etc) Then FP refuses to deal with the situation and refusing to cover anything under warranty.
Most that have claimed this has assumed that the reason being an international buyer would make it 'harder/more difficult' for us to claim for things.
Could you please offer your assurance with this matter?
Dear Michael, this may be slightly off topic but still in relation to your turbos.
I am thinking of going FP Zero or Zephyr also, as i do like your products and i think it would cost less than changing to a complete T3 - T4 set up.
However, being an international customer. i would just like to confirm your views of customer service / warranty is with FP?
Unfortunately, where i reside; i have heard various negative stories of how 'bad' FP is to deal with, should something go wrong (allegedly with oil leaks and bearing movement etc) Then FP refuses to deal with the situation and refusing to cover anything under warranty.
Most that have claimed this has assumed that the reason being an international buyer would make it 'harder/more difficult' for us to claim for things.
Could you please offer your assurance with this matter?
I am thinking of going FP Zero or Zephyr also, as i do like your products and i think it would cost less than changing to a complete T3 - T4 set up.
However, being an international customer. i would just like to confirm your views of customer service / warranty is with FP?
Unfortunately, where i reside; i have heard various negative stories of how 'bad' FP is to deal with, should something go wrong (allegedly with oil leaks and bearing movement etc) Then FP refuses to deal with the situation and refusing to cover anything under warranty.
Most that have claimed this has assumed that the reason being an international buyer would make it 'harder/more difficult' for us to claim for things.
Could you please offer your assurance with this matter?
I wish i would have listened to those stories cause my bank account would look alot healthier & the concrete in my shed would have less oil stains on it also.
I could tell you MANY stories here in Australia about FP!
Isn't this supposed to be a Dyno result thread?? All I hear is people *****ing about the o2 housing in here. There is another thread to talk about that.
I'm still waiting to see more numbers on the Zero before making a purchase.
Also if you can afford to take your car to the muffler shop and spend $100 MAX to put on your brand new bad *** turbo, this isn't the hobby for you.
All you men sound like whiney little girls in here!
I'm still waiting to see more numbers on the Zero before making a purchase.
Also if you can afford to take your car to the muffler shop and spend $100 MAX to put on your brand new bad *** turbo, this isn't the hobby for you.
All you men sound like whiney little girls in here!
No **** lol
It's comical to read all these post from people wanting O2 housing/downpipe combos specifically for their setup. They expect companies to make them just to suit their needs.
As stated earlier there are companies that make solutions, FP has released one to save you money ($250 vs $600-$700) all you have to do is slightly/simply modify your existing downpipe.
If you can afford a $2500+ turbo then you can spend $100 to get your downpipe modified.
Also I see people complaining about having to drive their car to a shop to do this. I am assuming they've never had anything mocked up and modified/fabricated before.
Simple to do, bolt on the FP O2 housing with the weld on flange attached. Mock up your existing downpipe, take a measurement of the amount of your downpipe that needs to be cutoff (you can go ahead and cut the existing flange off it to make it easier). Cutoff the amount of material needed and mock up your downpipe to the supplied flange that FP sent with their O2 housing. Once you have it lined up and looks right simple make marks on the flange and the downpipe on 2 sides of each with a sharpe (like 2 straight lines at one end put an arrow, on the other an X or dot so you know which lines go with which).
Remove the downpipe and flange, take it to a muffler shop or a metal fabrication shop in your local area (you can google and call around and ask businesses if they can or will do this small service for you). Throw it in the back of your buddies/wifes/girlfriends car take it up there and have it welded.
I've had cases where local shops will do small stuff for no cost because it isn't a big deal and not worth the time of writing a ticket.
Just be sure to ask and tell them that you need it TIG welded not MIG welded.
If you're trying to build a 500+ awhp EVO you have to pay to play. Also an external dump is what you need, a recirculated dump isn't good for a 450-500+ car, the recirculated dump starts to cause issues with back pressure and your tuner will have a hard time fighting it with the EBCS boost tables.
For 300-430ish awhp it won't be a major deal. But if that is your goal then just send FP an EVO 9 turbo to be upgraded to a 71hta and use all of your stock(ish) exhaust parts. Stock or replaced O2 and exsisting downpipe.
It's comical to read all these post from people wanting O2 housing/downpipe combos specifically for their setup. They expect companies to make them just to suit their needs.
As stated earlier there are companies that make solutions, FP has released one to save you money ($250 vs $600-$700) all you have to do is slightly/simply modify your existing downpipe.
If you can afford a $2500+ turbo then you can spend $100 to get your downpipe modified.
Also I see people complaining about having to drive their car to a shop to do this. I am assuming they've never had anything mocked up and modified/fabricated before.
Simple to do, bolt on the FP O2 housing with the weld on flange attached. Mock up your existing downpipe, take a measurement of the amount of your downpipe that needs to be cutoff (you can go ahead and cut the existing flange off it to make it easier). Cutoff the amount of material needed and mock up your downpipe to the supplied flange that FP sent with their O2 housing. Once you have it lined up and looks right simple make marks on the flange and the downpipe on 2 sides of each with a sharpe (like 2 straight lines at one end put an arrow, on the other an X or dot so you know which lines go with which).
Remove the downpipe and flange, take it to a muffler shop or a metal fabrication shop in your local area (you can google and call around and ask businesses if they can or will do this small service for you). Throw it in the back of your buddies/wifes/girlfriends car take it up there and have it welded.
I've had cases where local shops will do small stuff for no cost because it isn't a big deal and not worth the time of writing a ticket.
Just be sure to ask and tell them that you need it TIG welded not MIG welded.
If you're trying to build a 500+ awhp EVO you have to pay to play. Also an external dump is what you need, a recirculated dump isn't good for a 450-500+ car, the recirculated dump starts to cause issues with back pressure and your tuner will have a hard time fighting it with the EBCS boost tables.
For 300-430ish awhp it won't be a major deal. But if that is your goal then just send FP an EVO 9 turbo to be upgraded to a 71hta and use all of your stock(ish) exhaust parts. Stock or replaced O2 and exsisting downpipe.
To the guy that is asking about customer service and such and reading horror stories on line about FP. For every horror story or bad review there are 10 positive or more. I've delt with several companies in my 16+ years of builting and modifing turbocharged imports. Forced Performance is one of the best companies to deal with out there with top quality proven products.
If you ever have questions about their product or anything it is very easy to call and speak to someone there. So my advice would be to call them and speak to someone there versus asking a poll opinion on a forum.
If you ever have questions about their product or anything it is very easy to call and speak to someone there. So my advice would be to call them and speak to someone there versus asking a poll opinion on a forum.


