Originally Posted by Warrtalon

Damn, phillip, come on. You are pressing WAY TOO HARD! .I do not use flashes, because I prefer to do my own tuning and not have my ECU deflowered, but at the same time, I know he knows what he's doing, so I have no reason to like or dislike Al. Therefore, I think it's safe to say I'm being objective in this matter.

Al did not say the engine isn't working right. He said that is one of the possibilities, but that there was on way to tell at that point. If there was no knock and the timing/AF/HP/TQ curves were very well tuned, then what reason would he have to "detune" it with a new flash? I don't understand how this is Al's responsibility or even why he should do it to begin with when he has no conclusive evidence that it is necessary. This started with you attacking Al's semantics, when the rest of us understood what he meant, and now you're downgraded your attack to asking why a businessmen won't provide a free detune without any empirical evidence to suggest doing it...

Originally Posted by KILTERMAN

Man phillip has been getting rocked as of late, I told you no one likes you

Originally Posted by robertrinaustin

Come on Phillip. Add something informative and stop hating the world. Do you honestly think Al would leave the car as tuned if he thought it was a danger? A little decency here is all I'm asking. No need to paint everyone the sheister.

I didn't even bother to quote you because I hope it will soon be gone.

Originally Posted by KILTERMAN

Man phillip has been getting rocked as of late, I told you no one likes you

Originally Posted by robertrinaustin

I like Phillip. We have shared some good discussions over the past few months. I find him to be intelligent, thoughtful and open to different ideas and viewpoints.

But, sometime Phillips gets sidetracked and misses the forest because of the trees.

Originally Posted by Warrtalon

Damn, phillip, come on. You are pressing WAY TOO HARD! I do not use flashes, because I prefer to do my own tuning and not have my ECU deflowered, but at the same time I know he knows what he's doing, so I think it's safe to say I'm being objective in this matter.

Al did not say the engine isn't working right. He said that is one of the possibilities, but that there was no way to tell at that point. If there was no knock and the timing/AF/HP/TQ curves were very well tuned, then what reason would he have to "detune" it with a new flash? I don't understand how this is Al's responsibility or even why he should do it to begin with when he has no conclusive evidence that it is necessary. This started with you attacking Al's semantics, when the rest of us understood what he meant, and now you've downgraded your attack to asking why a businessmen won't provide a free detune without any empirical evidence to suggest doing it...

Originally Posted by DynoFlash

Thank you for your time to reason a good explanation.

Basically this customer was "concerned" that his tuner may have left him with a bad tune and he wasked me to take a look see.

I was happy to report that the tuner had done a fine job on his car - although a bit more agressive than I may prefer.

However - there was some "REASON" why his car was weak and stock like turbo in power :

A - Mechaical issue

B - Turbo sucks

Sadly - we did not have time to check A today.

Solution - get A checked out

Thanks for taking your time on this

Originally Posted by Widebandphillip

Boy, i'm checking this thread every minute, and every minute the post locations are dropping meaning someone is deleting a lot of posts. This is a public forum, are we not entitled to our opinions.

Originally Posted by 1BADASSEVO8

Obviously because you don't know how to wrench on cars. You were Sooo Happy to get your hands on a car with a WR turbo. you get one in your hands and don't help him. I know you need the Pruven mechanics to wrench on it for you .

P.S. Widebandphillip was dead on with his posts, Al did say the tune was perfect then says it was agressive. Also with almost 8,000 posts how the Hell do you find the time to wrench on cars.

Originally Posted by Speedlimit

I remind you that a forum is a public meeting place for open discussion. 'Open' does not connote disrespectful comments about persons nor the license to say what one pleases. 'Discussion' happens here, i.e. consideration of questions in an informal debate. In the context of a forum, rules are established for the common good so selfishness, incivility, and unaccountable opinion don't choke meaningful exchange. Thanks.

Speedlimit.....

Originally Posted by Speedlimit

I remind you that a forum is a public meeting place for open discussion. 'Open' does not connote disrespectful comments about persons nor the license to say what one pleases. 'Discussion' happens here, i.e. consideration of questions in an informal debate. In the context of a forum, rules are established for the common good so selfishness, incivility, and unaccountable opinion don't choke meaningful exchange. Thanks.

Speedlimit.....

Originally Posted by DynoFlash

Not exactly the case.

Did you know that I do 100% of the wrenching work on my own Dyno Flash Evo 8 including putting the current engine together with my on two hands. I do boost leak tests and compression tests on my car on a weekly basis - I think i could have handled it if I had the time.

There is not one part of the evo I have not worked on in the past two years and change.

The reality is that at Pruven I do my reflash tuning and Pruven does fabrication, mechanical work and installs.

At 6:00 p.m. the work day is ending so people who work there can go home - it is not time to take on diagnostic investigations.

The customer could have eacily set up an appointment for testing at a future date.

Originally Posted by KILTERMAN

Hey Al can you comment on the Power gains from this setup using an EMS , while reflashers are not making nearly the power?

Originally Posted by KILTERMAN

Hahahaha.



Hey Al can you comment on the Power gains from this setup using an EMS , while reflashers are not making nearly the power?