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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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#7, Al has the 280's idling very good with just a flash. He MIGHT be able to get these to idle too. They are AGGRESSIVE. Not for someone that isn't HARDCORE.

#8, TME will spool faster but not make as much power as the 20G-9.

#9, Quite honestly, the head on my RS is the exact head we sell. Absolulety nothing special about it. We can do one for anyone anytime just like it. I don't see a reason for anyone to sell an EVO8 just to upgrade to an EVO9. I think after mods the EVO8 is going to perform just as well.

#10, The gains on the ported head might be a little bit more with these cams. The head wakes up in the upper lift ranges. It is hard for me to say. They would FOR SURE gain on even a stock head though. The EVO head is very good, even stock.

#13, The black car is in the shop now and all back together. It's a little late for dropping in these cams but I have more on the way to the shop and we can do it. It's just more money

#14, I went on Revolvers website and only saw one set of cams for the EVO. We will have them instock next week at our shop.

#15, The car was dyno'd on VP C16.

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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you can make the revolver cams idle fine (but lumpy) with a stock ecu.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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#17, I put both the intake and exhaust cams in the car.

#18, I do NOT run cam gears on anything. I think I made some drink coasters out of some once. The cams are installed straight up on the stock gears.

#24, I definetely do not agree that HKS is garbage. They make some of the highest quality cam sets I have seen over the years. Find me a 4g63 cam from HKS that has ever failed. You won't. HKS does not make HARDCORE racing parts. They make parts for the masses that work for a very broad range of applications and people. I ran 7.8's at 175 mph with HKS 272 in my Talon. We ran 10.1 at 141 with HKS in our EVO, 10.1 at 144 in Matt's EVO etc. etc.

There are companies that make a more aggressive cam but a very aggressive cam is not for everyone.

There are many people on this board that would NOT tolerate these Revolver cams. I absolutely love them. The car is a beast. That's not for everyone. Some guys can't take a little added vibration from adding a motor mount or refuse to pull 17 pounds of useless from crash beam from their cars. No way will guys like that tolerate an idle like this.

Don't get me wrong, my car idles without stalling, runs superb, no problems. It shakes and sounds very pissed off though

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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I love this quote:


"Don't get me wrong, my car idles without stalling, runs superb, no problems. It shakes and sounds very pissed off though "

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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It shakes and sounds very pissed off though

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Thats what I'm talking about! David do you have any pricing on these yet through you?
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
#17, I put both the intake and exhaust cams in the car.

#18, I do NOT run cam gears on anything. I think I made some drink coasters out of some once. The cams are installed straight up on the stock gears.

#24, I definetely do not agree that HKS is garbage. They make some of the highest quality cam sets I have seen over the years. Find me a 4g63 cam from HKS that has ever failed. You won't. HKS does not make HARDCORE racing parts. They make parts for the masses that work for a very broad range of applications and people. I ran 7.8's at 175 mph with HKS 272 in my Talon. We ran 10.1 at 141 with HKS in our EVO, 10.1 at 144 in Matt's EVO etc. etc.

There are companies that make a more aggressive cam but a very aggressive cam is not for everyone.

There are many people on this board that would NOT tolerate these Revolver cams. I absolutely love them. The car is a beast. That's not for everyone. Some guys can't take a little added vibration from adding a motor mount or refuse to pull 17 pounds of useless from crash beam from their cars. No way will guys like that tolerate an idle like this.

Don't get me wrong, my car idles without stalling, runs superb, no problems. It shakes and sounds very pissed off though

David Buschur
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I do have to agree about the idle. I'm running the Tomei 260 procams and waiting for the UTEC update before tuning.
It lopes pretty good (the wife says it sounds like crap) and if I tap the throttle hard and lift, it will die. I like the wump/blump wump/blump.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Why are you so against cam gears? There is some actual tuning potential there.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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we need a video clip of the idle dave!!!
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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damn, revolver cams must be good
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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My car will not stall at all. I can rev it, cold start is great etc. No problems, just aggressive/choppy. I will try to take some video/sound clips. I bumped the idle on my car to 1200 actually to get it to smooth out enough to idle well.

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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why no cam gears? when you don't use cam gears don't you leave power on the table?
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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More good stuff David

I was wondering when everyone was going to catch on to Revolver products...
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
#17, I put both the intake and exhaust cams in the car.

#18, I do NOT run cam gears on anything. I think I made some drink coasters out of some once. The cams are installed straight up on the stock gears.

#24, I definetely do not agree that HKS is garbage. They make some of the highest quality cam sets I have seen over the years. Find me a 4g63 cam from HKS that has ever failed. You won't. HKS does not make HARDCORE racing parts. They make parts for the masses that work for a very broad range of applications and people. I ran 7.8's at 175 mph with HKS 272 in my Talon. We ran 10.1 at 141 with HKS in our EVO, 10.1 at 144 in Matt's EVO etc. etc.

There are companies that make a more aggressive cam but a very aggressive cam is not for everyone.

There are many people on this board that would NOT tolerate these Revolver cams. I absolutely love them. The car is a beast. That's not for everyone. Some guys can't take a little added vibration from adding a motor mount or refuse to pull 17 pounds of useless from crash beam from their cars. No way will guys like that tolerate an idle like this.

Don't get me wrong, my car idles without stalling, runs superb, no problems. It shakes and sounds very pissed off though

David Buschur
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I agree and to amplify - when you go agressive on cams - usually valve train life is shortend to some extent - HKS cams are mild enough where you can expect stock like longeviety

With agressive high lift cams you loose out on idle and emissions and valve train life span but pick up on power

There are many design criteria in making any performance product

The most powerful is not always the "best" - the application and intended use is what determines the appropriate parts

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Not exactly the same results I had on my "stock motor, stock head".

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=181187
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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well said Al...I have HKS 272's and i wouldn't change cause another is more aggressive...i rather have the known longevity.

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