well with a turbo i can always put some race gas in it, turn up the boost and get more power, with cams i cant do that. thats y i went with the turbo first.

also a lot of people say that anything above 264's u should have a bigger turbo, so i figured i would do that first.

but honestly i think an intercooler is next. just because i can install it myself and there is no tuning involved. i still have to put my coilovers in, so as long as i gain some power with this turbo i will be content for awhile.

 

i would suggest that we keep the stock injectors in it for the before and after test as withouit cams you will not need those 780 's - we can always add them when tyou get cams one day ?

 

The actuator is definitely a crucial addition with these turbos. I have the FP HP actuator which holds 18psi at spring pressure. In maintaining 22psi rock solid im able to make up some of the power differential compared to aftermarket cam equipped 03/05 cars and the IX. Expectedly my low-midrange torque is much lower in comparison with the WR making up the differential in the upper range. My HP curve continues to climb to redline while my TQ levels off and stays flat.

 

That reminds me .. I wish I would have asked AL when he was tuning my car what my injector duty cycle was on race gas.

 

i was told from david that at least 680cc's were needed so i want them in there, i mean i did buy them.

 

on my MR before injectors i had, 272 cams, intake, walbro 255, Megan header, TBE no cat, EBC, IC and a Utec to tune with. I hit 100% duty cycle on the stock turbo

 

So true! Also how much credit can be given to the superior design of the IX housing when comparing it to the WR8? BR 20g-8 = WR-8 imo and with the IX design performance will be marginally better for both applications. IMO a good upgrade either way. But is it worth the price and why was the 20g-8 and 20g-9 ever promoted as a superior product if the Vendor and Accomplice knew they were the same thing.

 

They were not the same thing. The 20g-8 and 20g-9 were both 6 blade compressor wheels. I'm pretty sure that's a significant difference. Now the 20g-9-5 that we've all just learned of does seem to have the same compressor wheel as the WR, but I haven't seen anyone with any knowledge on the subject confirm that they are in fact the same wheel. All that was said is that it was a "special version" of the WR. I'm not sure if that means the compressor wheel is slightly different, the turbine is different, both, or neither. I suppose the fact that no one has denied the assumption that both compressor wheels are the same indicates that they are, in fact, the same. I hope my post isn't too confusing, as trying to type what I'm actually thinking (without writing an entire book) is making my head spin.

-Paul

 

is it or is it not the same?

 

He probably assumed that you had cams. David probably would have tried to dissuade you from getting the 20G if he had known that you had stock cams and weren't upgrading them because you thought the turbo was a better bang for the buck (as opposed to keeping them in for warranty, emissions or some other legitimate reason).

 

This has sparked my interest tremendously - * see signature for mods *
Can the WR9 upgrade be accomplished at Buschur's, or will I have to send my WR8 w/ 10.5 hotside back to FP? This may be the solution I am looking for to extract more Hp out of my setup! I am looking for David or Robert to reply if they could on this subject. I can't wait for the results, as I want to see the diff. between the WR8 and WR9 dyno'ed on the same car. Thanks for responding!

 

You are going to need something bigger than a 30R to catch us dog!!!!

 

typo ment k03 Chill out Boost police. No need to get angry about it.

 

You have to send it to FP and it's $600 for the upgrade. I don't think it's worth it.

 

Would you have to get a $175 Buschur install kit on top of that? Or does that include everything you need to drop it into an Evo8?