20G-9 from buschur.
so the new lower ic pipe doesnt fit???? weird. i guess i will find out soon.
Originally Posted by Nez136
Just installed my turbo last night, i took my time to make sure everything was right but apparently i missed a couple things....
To start, after pulling everything off my car and setting the 2 turbos next to eachother i can say that the Evo9 is a lot larger than the 8 turbo. When installing the new turbo i came to a problem, the turbo outlet pipe that came with the install kit did not come even close to fiting to my stock piping. I was a little angred at first but that isn't a good thing when your working on your baby. So i took the evo 8 outlet and intalled it and it fit perfect! Everything went together fine after that.
After filling fluids back up i went and opened the shop door all the way to find nothing less than 4 inches of snow! Sweet i get to the shop at 7:00 pm with nothing on the ground but a little dampness from pryer rain and now it was 11:00 pm and WI weather is at its finest!! ****!
I found only one stretch on halfway dry road and gave her a little nuts....Wow, this turbo spools quicker and it pulls like a train! I didn't even make it to 6k rpms before i lost all traction due to snow once again. I came home and found that i didn't torque one of the coolant lines off the turbo hard enough and it was leaking a little but. That was the easy fix then i found my SRS light was on!? I forgot to plug the Driver side Airbag sensor back in(right next to the headlight) and im still trying to figure out how to turn the light off.
There is no chance with in this next 2-3 days that i will be able to drive on these roads so i'll report back with tuning results in about 1 week.
To start, after pulling everything off my car and setting the 2 turbos next to eachother i can say that the Evo9 is a lot larger than the 8 turbo. When installing the new turbo i came to a problem, the turbo outlet pipe that came with the install kit did not come even close to fiting to my stock piping. I was a little angred at first but that isn't a good thing when your working on your baby. So i took the evo 8 outlet and intalled it and it fit perfect! Everything went together fine after that.
After filling fluids back up i went and opened the shop door all the way to find nothing less than 4 inches of snow! Sweet i get to the shop at 7:00 pm with nothing on the ground but a little dampness from pryer rain and now it was 11:00 pm and WI weather is at its finest!! ****!
I found only one stretch on halfway dry road and gave her a little nuts....Wow, this turbo spools quicker and it pulls like a train! I didn't even make it to 6k rpms before i lost all traction due to snow once again. I came home and found that i didn't torque one of the coolant lines off the turbo hard enough and it was leaking a little but. That was the easy fix then i found my SRS light was on!? I forgot to plug the Driver side Airbag sensor back in(right next to the headlight) and im still trying to figure out how to turn the light off.
There is no chance with in this next 2-3 days that i will be able to drive on these roads so i'll report back with tuning results in about 1 week.
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
4TUN8,
I think my first response did answer your question, just not directly:0)
Yes, of course I would do it but only at the right time. The right time is after you have completed our Stage 4 first. At that point if someone is happy with their EVO, which they should be, and doesn't want a lot of additional lag from a larger turbo then this is the right choice for the car. At that point if someone is thinking another 100 whp is what they want then this isn't the right choice.
You have to remember. We have shelves of turbos here. Ranging from mild to "holy shi t is that a thing huge". I have 9 guys working here. We own 7 EVO's owned between us. Right now, today, of those 7 EVO's 3 have 20G's on them and are daily driven (mine is sitting inside until the weather gets nice but you get the idea). Another one of the 7 is getting a 20G as soon as we get a chance to start working on the car. Remember that it is just as easy for any of us to take a GT35R off the shelf and install it. Just to sum up the rest of the car, Jarrod's is getting a new GT BB upgrade that we want to try out, the other car is our black drag car with a GT45R on it and the last car is my brother's red car that right now has the stock turbo on it....he may go back to a GT35R on that one and run only race gas on the street.
I really feel this is a good worthwhile turbo upgrade if I didn't, I wouldn't sell it. I'd promote something else.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
I think my first response did answer your question, just not directly:0)
Yes, of course I would do it but only at the right time. The right time is after you have completed our Stage 4 first. At that point if someone is happy with their EVO, which they should be, and doesn't want a lot of additional lag from a larger turbo then this is the right choice for the car. At that point if someone is thinking another 100 whp is what they want then this isn't the right choice.
You have to remember. We have shelves of turbos here. Ranging from mild to "holy shi t is that a thing huge". I have 9 guys working here. We own 7 EVO's owned between us. Right now, today, of those 7 EVO's 3 have 20G's on them and are daily driven (mine is sitting inside until the weather gets nice but you get the idea). Another one of the 7 is getting a 20G as soon as we get a chance to start working on the car. Remember that it is just as easy for any of us to take a GT35R off the shelf and install it. Just to sum up the rest of the car, Jarrod's is getting a new GT BB upgrade that we want to try out, the other car is our black drag car with a GT45R on it and the last car is my brother's red car that right now has the stock turbo on it....he may go back to a GT35R on that one and run only race gas on the street.
I really feel this is a good worthwhile turbo upgrade if I didn't, I wouldn't sell it. I'd promote something else.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
so the new lower ic pipe doesnt fit???? weird. i guess i will find out soon.
Hmm I want to known on the new lower pipe does it have the nipple for the one vacum line? If not what do you do with it? As for resetting your srs light... ive been told you can actually take both of your power cables off the battery and then touch them together so there is no power left in the system worth a shot some cars it works on others you have to have reset by the dealer.
what? are u saying to take the power cable and the ground cable and touch the together? confused
any updates on the lower ic pipe?
any updates on the lower ic pipe?
Originally Posted by BoostWhore
Hmm I want to known on the new lower pipe does it have the nipple for the one vacum line? If not what do you do with it? As for resetting your srs light... ive been told you can actually take both of your power cables off the battery and then touch them together so there is no power left in the system worth a shot some cars it works on others you have to have reset by the dealer.
Yeah after you make sure to disconnect them from both battery post and make sure you do not have an extra battery hooked in line. Once disconnected you take the + terminal and touch it to ground its suppose to completely drain the system. It works on some cars but not all of them to reset airbag lights
None of our lower pipes have a nipple built into them. The hose just gets routed to the BOV line or other boost/vacuum source.
The lower pipe.....I have not installed a single EVO9 style turbo on a stock FMIC equipped EVO yet. The lower pipe we send out is actually meant to work with our new Deluxe, Standard and Race FMIC's. It will also work with the Nisei.
It's good to hear that the stock EVO8 pipe worked but it is odd to me that it lines up as it should hang about 1.5" too low as the compressor cover on the EVO9 is that much longer.
As for the water/oil lines. Yes the stock EVO8 lines can be made to work with some creative bending. We have caught hell in the past trying to supply kits and telling someone "Just bend it and make it fit" so I thought it was best to do the kit right from the start. The mounting tabs on the EVO8 lines will not all line up and bolt back on, if that isn't a big deal for someone then I'd say skip the install kit. I just didn't want to short cut the kits and then have people say it sucked because they had to use their old parts and bend them a little.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
The lower pipe.....I have not installed a single EVO9 style turbo on a stock FMIC equipped EVO yet. The lower pipe we send out is actually meant to work with our new Deluxe, Standard and Race FMIC's. It will also work with the Nisei.
It's good to hear that the stock EVO8 pipe worked but it is odd to me that it lines up as it should hang about 1.5" too low as the compressor cover on the EVO9 is that much longer.
As for the water/oil lines. Yes the stock EVO8 lines can be made to work with some creative bending. We have caught hell in the past trying to supply kits and telling someone "Just bend it and make it fit" so I thought it was best to do the kit right from the start. The mounting tabs on the EVO8 lines will not all line up and bolt back on, if that isn't a big deal for someone then I'd say skip the install kit. I just didn't want to short cut the kits and then have people say it sucked because they had to use their old parts and bend them a little.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
I just ended up getting my SRS cleared at the dealer(after charging me $45). It is strange like you said David about the lower IC pipe but well whatever, it works. As far as looking at the oil/coolant lines, i wouldn't beat around the bush trying to bend them, just get the new ones, its not worth the hassel.
Milwaukee interstates are finally cleared up and i was able to finally start gripping the power of this thing. All i can say is DAMN! The power you get hits soo fast that i just start laughing as soon as i step on it and then all the way through the gear. I still need to fine tune it though. I think the combination of my 272's works VERY well even though i am still thinking about Revolvers. My car is a blast to drive, thank you for the turbo Dave!
Milwaukee interstates are finally cleared up and i was able to finally start gripping the power of this thing. All i can say is DAMN! The power you get hits soo fast that i just start laughing as soon as i step on it and then all the way through the gear. I still need to fine tune it though. I think the combination of my 272's works VERY well even though i am still thinking about Revolvers. My car is a blast to drive, thank you for the turbo Dave!
Nez, thanks for the review. Very glad the turbo is pulling well. What did you retune the car with?
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Nez, thanks for the review. Very glad the turbo is pulling well. What did you retune the car with?
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
well the 20g-9-5 is in and tuned. pulling 322.5hp at 5800 rpm and 324.5tq at 4800rpm the car was pulling timing once again. this time we think its due to the catco high flow cat that is on the car. i believe with the same boost of 22psi and no cat the car would have easily made 340hp with no cams because it would hit 5800 rpms and the knock sensor would realize something was wrong and kick the power down. it was really frustating because i knew there was a nut in the cat and i didnt tell them. im a dumb ***. and no i didnt drop the nut down there.
so there u have it, with no cams this turbo is very capable of over 340hp. pulls like a SOB too.
so there u have it, with no cams this turbo is very capable of over 340hp. pulls like a SOB too.
forgot to mention that the lower ic pipe doesnt fit so the stock one was used. it basicly touches my started which sucks.
got to say GREAT JOB to the guys at PRUVEN for such a good job and great customer service. Dan thanks for taking us to the mall while u and the other guy installed the parts.
got to say GREAT JOB to the guys at PRUVEN for such a good job and great customer service. Dan thanks for taking us to the mall while u and the other guy installed the parts.
Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
forgot to mention that the lower ic pipe doesnt fit so the stock one was used. it basicly touches my started which sucks.
got to say GREAT JOB to the guys at PRUVEN for such a good job and great customer service. Dan thanks for taking us to the mall while u and the other guy installed the parts.
got to say GREAT JOB to the guys at PRUVEN for such a good job and great customer service. Dan thanks for taking us to the mall while u and the other guy installed the parts.
Brian
Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
well the 20g-9-5 is in and tuned. pulling 322.5hp at 5800 rpm and 324.5tq at 4800rpm the car was pulling timing once again. this time we think its due to the catco high flow cat that is on the car. i believe with the same boost of 22psi and no cat the car would have easily made 340hp with no cams because it would hit 5800 rpms and the knock sensor would realize something was wrong and kick the power down. it was really frustating because i knew there was a nut in the cat and i didnt tell them. im a dumb ***. and no i didnt drop the nut down there.
so there u have it, with no cams this turbo is very capable of over 340hp. pulls like a SOB too.
so there u have it, with no cams this turbo is very capable of over 340hp. pulls like a SOB too.