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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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So how much WHP are we looking at switching from a 2.75 to 3.0?
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The MIVEC is not going to effec the flow of the exhaust after the turbine wheel. A 3" downpipe is going to make more power than a 2.5 or 2.75" on a car making any decent power at all. It is NOT going to hurt the power of even a low powered EVO. There is NO reason to NOT use a 3" downpipe UNLESS you are going to attach it to the stock catalytic converter. IF you are sticking with the stock cat then use a 2.5" downpipe, otherwise, go with 3".

End of story. Will race for money.
it seems the 2.75" make more tq on pump gas
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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Anyone wanting to continue to argue about donwpipes please refer to the post that Zeus made from the engineer at Garret.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The MIVEC is not going to effec the flow of the exhaust after the turbine wheel. A 3" downpipe is going to make more power than a 2.5 or 2.75" on a car making any decent power at all. It is NOT going to hurt the power of even a low powered EVO. There is NO reason to NOT use a 3" downpipe UNLESS you are going to attach it to the stock catalytic converter. IF you are sticking with the stock cat then use a 2.5" downpipe, otherwise, go with 3".

End of story. Will race for money.
Hehe well said Dave. If the 3.0" fits (and many do) go with the 3.0".

Incidently Helix V2 downpipes and test pipes in stock.

As for more torque, more torque is achievable by by pushing more boost pressure. Cars with superiour boost management systems (for example an AVC-R) will have better boost curves and thus torque curves than a manual boost controller. For this reason, comparing a 2.75" to a 3.0" on separate cars with separate setups is comparing apples to oranges.

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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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I like what Dave said because it's all true. If you want to stick with the stock turbo, think about 2.5", it'll be fine. If you want to upgrade your turbo or make some big power run a 3.0". If and when the motor mounts start to sag get a Cusco V2 brace or some spacers. If you happen to find a 2.75" for cheap or your buddy gives you one, go for it!

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Stock downpipe is about 2.5" so paying $399 for an HKS unit is the biggest joke of the aftermarket DP world.

We have 25, 3" mandrel bent, robotic tig welded, stainless steel polished units in stock for $165 shipped. While others are taking the opportunity to plug their products, we might as well also.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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Stock downpipe is about 2.5" so paying $399 for an HKS unit is the biggest joke of the aftermarket DP world.

We have 25, 3" mandrel bent, robotic tig welded, stainless steel polished units in stock for $165 shipped. While others are taking the opportunity to plug their products, we might as well also.
Do you know if your DP will clear the Cusco Type II LAB brace?
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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Do you know if your DP will clear the Cusco Type II LAB brace?
If its the blue 2-piece then yes. As it is actually lower than the stock tie bars.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Do you know if your DP will clear the Cusco Type II LAB brace?
who cares get the tanabe one that clears your dp hahaha
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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who cares get the tanabe one that clears your dp hahaha
?? I've already purchased and installed a Cusco Type II brace.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
A 3" downpipe is going to make more power than a 2.5 or 2.75" on a car making any decent power at all. It is NOT going to hurt the power of even a low powered EVO. There is NO reason to NOT use a 3" downpipe UNLESS you are going to attach it to the stock catalytic converter. IF you are sticking with the stock cat then use a 2.5" downpipe, otherwise, go with 3".

End of story. Will race for money.
David,

Real quick question. Are we talking peak power here or are you saying that a 3" DP will make more power throughout the entire RPM range? Let's assume a 3" exhaust from the DP back. Also assume no tune, or a tune without increasing boost.

I'm trying to figure out if a 3" DP will sacrifice ANY low end TQ to a smaller DP.

Thanks!

Corey #89 STU
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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A 3" will make more power if mated to a 3" cat/offroad pipe and catback than using a smaller diamer pipe, this is throughout the RPM range.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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Thanks! BTW... we just installed your 3" V-band system on a buddies EVO last night. I've never seen anything fit so good!
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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i have the buschur v-band, and it definitely fits like a glove, no leaks and very easy to install.

highly recommended!!!!!!

sounds good, lightweight, perfect fit, good power - oh yea!!!
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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i have buschur and it fits perfect!!!
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