Whats new with the new 20g
Is there ever going to be a relevant post in this thread for a stock bottom, cammed (264's or 272's), walbro'd, 3" TBE'd car...probably not. The 80% commoners are not sexy. The 20% that run alky/race gas/both are...sexy sells, so sexy wins. Dave is busy with proving his gt35 kit; again, the sexy factor.
Until some of the 80% commoners get this and are either disappointed (ala 20g-8 or 20g-9-6 and to some extent 20g-9-5) or satisfied that it does work on normal pisstane gas at some pressure less than diamond making levels, we'll not know.
So remember this...modded to the hilt=sexy and that will be catered to.. Normal bolt-ons=not sexy...even though the market is potentially bigger with non-sexy, it will never hold the attention of (ahem) marketers.
Until some of the 80% commoners get this and are either disappointed (ala 20g-8 or 20g-9-6 and to some extent 20g-9-5) or satisfied that it does work on normal pisstane gas at some pressure less than diamond making levels, we'll not know.
So remember this...modded to the hilt=sexy and that will be catered to.. Normal bolt-ons=not sexy...even though the market is potentially bigger with non-sexy, it will never hold the attention of (ahem) marketers.
As has been said over and over, these turbos are not intended to make big power increases on pump gas. Where the big power increases come from are being able to hold higher boost at higher RPMs than the stock turbos . . .
If you want big power on pump gas - get a GT35R or GT37R and you should be good for 400-500 whp on 93 octane. Or save yourself $2000 and get a 20G and AI and make close to 400whp on 93 octane +meth.
EVOlutionary
If you want big power on pump gas - get a GT35R or GT37R and you should be good for 400-500 whp on 93 octane. Or save yourself $2000 and get a 20G and AI and make close to 400whp on 93 octane +meth.
EVOlutionary
Originally Posted by EVOlutionary
As has been said over and over, these turbos are not intended to make big power increases on pump gas. Where the big power increases come from are being able to hold higher boost at higher RPMs than the stock turbos . . .
If you want big power on pump gas - get a GT35R or GT37R and you should be good for 400-500 whp on 93 octane. Or save yourself $2000 and get a 20G and AI and make close to 400whp on 93 octane +meth.
EVOlutionary
If you want big power on pump gas - get a GT35R or GT37R and you should be good for 400-500 whp on 93 octane. Or save yourself $2000 and get a 20G and AI and make close to 400whp on 93 octane +meth.
EVOlutionary
Everyone here is a little more excited about this new turbo because it utilizes a DIFFERENT TURBINE WHEEL. That is the key to making the extra power on pump. The 20G-9 and 8 was just a stock turbo with 20G Compressor wheel. This new turbo is 20G Compressor with custom turbine wheel (presumably bigger and better flowing), which indeed should make a noticeable improvement on pump gas. If this turbo can flow a hair more air AND hold 22-23psi to redline it should make 30whp easy on pump and I think thats what most people are looking for.
However, I 99.9% doubt Buschur or any other vendor is going to test a normal bolt on flashed EVO with this turbo to prove anything. Someone is going to have to be the test pig and do it themselves. Id love to see this turbo on my car on pump since Im basically maxxed out on pump gas.
Originally Posted by deadbeatrec
Is it just me or are u a little bitter too that less then a year ago we bought the
20g-9-5 and now he has a new one. damn!
20g-9-5 and now he has a new one. damn!
Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
Id love to see this turbo on my car on pump since Im basically maxxed out on pump gas.
Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
The 20G-9 and 8 was just a stock turbo with 20G Compressor wheel. This new turbo is 20G Compressor with custom turbine wheel (presumably bigger and better flowing), which indeed should make a noticeable improvement on pump gas. If this turbo can flow a hair more air AND hold 22-23psi to redline it should make 30whp easy on pump and I think thats what most people are looking for.
The WR has been shown to make more on pump, but it especially likes the high boost numbers that can be run with higher octane fuels. It will be interesting to see how this new LT version works out.
Last edited by Erik@MIL.SPEC; Oct 25, 2006 at 12:42 AM.
this turbo is a waste of money for guys with MR's that want 1/4 mile numbers, hook up some alky or race gas to your stock turbo- push the boost up and change your rev limiter to 8100rpms and then go run a 11.5 at 118-119 (the end of 4th gear) and a perfect time before needing a roll cage
Originally Posted by thatsMR2u
this turbo is a waste of money for guys with MR's that want 1/4 mile numbers, hook up some alky or race gas to your stock turbo- push the boost up and change your rev limiter to 8100rpms and then go run a 11.5 at 118-119 (the end of 4th gear) and a perfect time before needing a roll cage
the new LT is trapping 126-128 though. even for us regular evo's im sure that it would still at least trap 125 which will take you farther than 11.5
more like 11.1-11.3 with alky or race gas of course.
more like 11.1-11.3 with alky or race gas of course.
Originally Posted by althemean
I personally would never run 8100rpm on a stock valvetrain.
Originally Posted by Kee1pride
the new LT is trapping 126-128 though. even for us regular evo's im sure that it would still at least trap 125 which will take you farther than 11.5
more like 11.1-11.3 with alky or race gas of course.
more like 11.1-11.3 with alky or race gas of course.
Really think so???
Like I said before though, this turbo should add a good dollop of torque midrange which is much more important for those of us with stock block daily's
Originally Posted by Kee1pride
the new LT is trapping 126-128 though. even for us regular evo's im sure that it would still at least trap 125 which will take you farther than 11.5
more like 11.1-11.3 with alky or race gas of course.
more like 11.1-11.3 with alky or race gas of course.
Originally Posted by Benja
125 on 93 pump only???
Really think so???
Like I said before though, this turbo should add a good dollop of torque midrange which is much more important for those of us with stock block daily's
Really think so???
Like I said before though, this turbo should add a good dollop of torque midrange which is much more important for those of us with stock block daily's




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