Originally Posted by honda-guy

Dave,

thanks for doing the test and posting the data. i always believed that your IC would perform better then the XSP IC, and this post just prove it.

I got the XSP IC with lower ICP, couplings and t-bolt clamps for $180 shipped. my target hp is 350 whp, which is not high enough to warrant a $600 IC. most would even say that i don't even need an aftermarket IC but i got it mainly because it came with lower ICP. the XSP IC will stay on my car until someone shows me data supporting that it perform worse than stock. in that case, i will put the stock one back on.

there's no doubt that Your IC is one of the best on the market but if Cosworh came out with an IC that make 5 more whp and 10 deg less and cost $3,000. does that mean that your IC is junk, no. and would the $2400 worth the extra 5 whp, hell no.

Originally Posted by s2kguy

Ok, try not to take this as a bash... but you really need to read a bit more carefully.

The big issue here isn't the hp difference. The issue is the intake charge temp! Because he had all the temp and knock corrections turned off on his AEM, his hp wasn't effected all that much. What did happen is his knock count spiked up, and under normal conditions his car would have pulled timing and started dumping fuel to try and fix it. This would have caused a severe drop in HP.

We're also not talking about a 10 degree difference. The difference was huge, and this has a huge impact on how well the car runs, and how safely.

Seriously folks, READ AND COMPREHEND. This is NOT ABOUT THE HP NUMBERS, this is about the TEMPERATURE. And as all the world knows, cooler is better.

Originally Posted by sabastian458

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Coming from someone who goes through the troble of removing Buschur parts from vehicles I buy,

Originally Posted by LilRico

You know what... It's funny, I see a nice topic, I read the 1st post and everything is good, and then guess what? A dumb mother fu**er comes on, like Scorke, and starts saying so much sh*t out of his a$$. Listen dude, go make your own fu**ing post where ever you like and talk all the sh*t you want, but serious people who are interested in the topic don't want to look at 150+ post over you arguing with the man! I mean sh*t I spent a huge amount of money on my car, and I'm happy that nothing breaks or fails and better yet, I don't have any issues adding or fitting other parts on it. Look, the man just wanted to show more then HP/TQ gains from an intercooler. A lot of people here started saying "oh well if the turbo was smaller or if this and that.." Common, is all that sh*t necessary? He recommends it on any turbo, be it stock or a damn GT42R. I bought his products for a reason! Go to the street races and see what the fastest evo's use... The EBAY one works great one night maybe two some get lucky and get a few months out of it, but those are the pissed off guys that are on the side of the road because something broke... In my opinion I think what Dave Buschur did was excellent and if I have a question, I'll ask. If I wanna bash, I'll make another post, but I wouldn't be a dick and ruin his forum and have co-signers come in and mess the whole thing up for others!!!! Dave continue your good work while others started they day the bought their EVO as being "A EXPERT ON EVO's".

For all that hate on what David does, just buy a Honda Civic or something, and save a lot of money buying parts for it. Or just stay away from his forums, but serious people actually want to see and read what the man has to say! Thank You!

Originally Posted by 4TUN8

What you sir need to realize is that he's running the Ebay FMIC on a stock turbo 350whp car, not a 9 second built race car that pushes 40psi. Even the AMS version that this IC copies wasn't meant for that.

This is what I have a problem with on these forums, total regurgitation of what someone else has said.

Originally Posted by s2kguy

Lets see the person I was replying to posted...

"there's no doubt that Your IC is one of the best on the market but if Cosworh came out with an IC that make 5 more whp and 10 deg less and cost $3,000. does that mean that your IC is junk, no. and would the $2400 worth the extra 5 whp, hell no."

We aren't talking about 10 degree's, and if the temp and knock corrections were turned on we certainly wouldn't be talking about 5-10 hp difference. We're also not talking about $2400 difference in cost.

There seem to be a lot of people complaining in here because they thought that their $150 fmic performed at least close to the Buschur one, now their feelings are hurt because it doesn't.

Get over it.

Originally Posted by sabastian458

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Coming from someone who goes through the troble of removing Buschur parts from vehicles I buy,

Originally Posted by 9sec9

LilRico, what you just said is right on! I'm personally tired of trying to get something out of EvolutionM, regardless of who said it, and having the original poster put down for what they said. I've also personally noticed that it's always the same 3 or 4 Negative posters who ALWAYS argue with DB and his results. If a person were to believe that those 3 or 4 were always right, then Buschur Racing must not have any parts that are superior to Ebay, what-you-say, or any-***king-way. I here and now call you the negative posters out to a shoot out. My dumbass, non-efficient, no horsepower, overheated Evo IX with your highly efficient and Cheap-*** Ebay modeled cars. Put up or shut up. I'm tired of reading pages and pages of bullschit arguments and wasting my time, when my original intent was to extract good information from a very good and decent friend. Rock on DB. (I'm not too sure however, seeing that you're car has over 640whp AND higher torque than mine, that I want to TRUST you to re-tune it before the May 7th track day,....hmmmmmm)