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those numbers are super impressive man
One possible trade-off: You need to upgrade springs/retainers with high lift cams.Originally Posted by Peteypab2133
What is the trade off really? Why do people cry about rough idles? If you are doing cams, you obviously are at the point that you are yanking every last HP out of your car. those numbers are super impressive man
Another: Some aggressive cams don't idle well, especially with a MAF
Another: Some cams trade low end grunt for high end power.
There is no cam panacea.
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he on straight c-16 lol.Originally Posted by dustin03
I was running pump and meth 100%
ditch the meth and go straight c-16 race map tune. Then you'll see torque numbers like that.
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Flash vs. AEM EMS 20+whp, C-16 vs. meth another 20+whp=40+whpOriginally Posted by dustin03
Stays over 400 tell 6800 that is a fast car. I only put down 405 on this turbo what am I doing wrong?
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Originally Posted by Fast Frank
Let's try it this way
so if I raced you from a roll I'd make sure I'd take off from a 52-5300 RPM roll and let my mid range and top end horsepower pull me thru. From red light to red light on the blvd, sure you'll take me, but thats not really racing right?
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They are both similar actually....when racing down the 1/4 mile.....you are usually spinning the motor upwards of 5500 RPM's thru all the gears....Originally Posted by JordanS4
How is racing from a high RPM roll like that "real racing" vs. 1/4 type racing?
I see a lot of guys "race" from a roll as a way of seeing whose car is faster, you can ask Soon2BEVO
he'll tell ya......Evolved Member
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Originally Posted by Vigo
^What's your problem?
I have a chip on my shoulder.....
Yes the FP's tq. is wonderful and all for low end and mid-range of the powerband, but in the midrange and upper parts of the powerband is where a strong horsepower band takes over......
If you FP guys wanna race me from light to light, beat me and feel good about it then fine, I can live with that, I dont even care, but try racing a properly driven and tuned 50 Trim + bigger turbo'd EVO on the highway or a 1/4 mile drag-strip, you will see nothing but tailites and smell nothing but exhaust fumes

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Yes the FP's tq. is wonderful and all for low end and mid-range of the powerband, but in the midrange and upper parts of the powerband is where a strong horsepower band takes over......
If you FP guys wanna race me from light to light, beat me and feel good about it then fine, I can live with that, I dont even care, but try racing a properly driven and tuned 50 Trim + bigger turbo'd EVO on the highway or a 1/4 mile drag-strip, you will see nothing but tailites and smell nothing but exhaust fumes
What is your point? Of course a turbo with higher flow will win in a top end race, duh. Do you think we are stupid or something? You are a lame joke, buddy.Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8
I have a chip on my shoulder.....Yes the FP's tq. is wonderful and all for low end and mid-range of the powerband, but in the midrange and upper parts of the powerband is where a strong horsepower band takes over......
If you FP guys wanna race me from light to light, beat me and feel good about it then fine, I can live with that, I dont even care, but try racing a properly driven and tuned 50 Trim + bigger turbo'd EVO on the highway or a 1/4 mile drag-strip, you will see nothing but tailites and smell nothing but exhaust fumes
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Originally Posted by Vigo
What is your point? Of course a turbo with higher flow will win in a top end race, duh. Do you think we are stupid or something? You are a lame joke, buddy.
I already stated my point in the previous post.....
did I hurt your feelings?

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No, you did hurt not my feelings. I'm actually laughing at how pathetic you are. What you need to do is to stop your lame attempt on justifying your overpriced purchase of your 50 trim turbo kit that does not produce that much more power than a mere bolt-on turbo that cost much less.
Edit: I will now stop feeding the troll that is Blue Evo 8.
Edit: I will now stop feeding the troll that is Blue Evo 8.
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Originally Posted by Vigo
No, you did hurt not my feelings. I'm actually laughing at how pathetic you are. What you need to do is to stop your lame attempt on justifying your overpriced purchase of your 50 trim turbo kit that does not produce that much more power than a mere bolt-on turbo that cost much less.
overpriced purchase?? you crack me up buddy, I think I should make it known to you that I got my little turbo kit in a group buy so I saved a several hundred bucks off of retail..... I spent my money now so that I can easily upgrade to something bigger later on in the future which I plan on doing anyway.
which for you is probably out of your budget to do anywayAnd another thing, my turbo kit looks better than yours when the hood is popped....
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did I hurt your feelings?
Why do you always thread crap in the Green threads? We know you don't like it and prefer your 50 trim, so no need to keep posting it over and over again. You've yet to add anything constructive or informative. Go troll somewhere else.Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8
I already stated my point in the previous post.....did I hurt your feelings?