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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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NO and Stop modifying your posts so fast. lol
That's because you posted your pathetic rebuttal when I quoted your previous post.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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Why don't you actually wait untill the question is answered or read a little bit yourself. You may be surprised how UNtechnical it really is. That is the whole point. But I wouldn't want to break your little heart now would I...?
Please go ahead and break it real world results always trump feeble attempts at being book smart.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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I knew you were going to be one of these idiotic technicality people......are you sure it was "Intake" temps.....go away and don't come back. You know exactly what happened the sensor is placed after the oultet of the IC one intercooler showed 7 degrees of temp. increase the othe showed 49 degrees stop doing a play on words. This is simple no reason to attempt to mix words and complicate things.
Patients Jasil......and for the love of the english language at least use capitol letters and commas somewhere. Spelling we all tend to forget lol
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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You've got to be kidding me, I cant believe your even trying to make a stand here.

Both cars have AEM AIT sensors located on the upper intercooler pipe. Did David or I say anything about CFM's rating or pressure drop? I dont think we did?

Unless AIT stands for something other then AIR INTAKE TEMP then I believe what i saw was AIR INTAKE TEMPERATURE. The beginning of the log shows 101 degrees. By 9k rpm, the temp is 149 degrees. What is so hard to comprehend about that?
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:53 AM
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Patients Jasil......and for the love of the english language at least use capitol letters and commas somewhere. Spelling we all tend to forget lol
I'll be grammatically correct when you learn how to spell.....Patience no Patients and Capital not Capitol........are you a teenager thats playing smart guy?
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve@NoLimitmotors;
You've got to be kidding me, I cant believe your even trying to make a stand here.

Both cars have AEM AIT sensors located on the upper intercooler pipe. Did David or I say anything about CFM's rating or pressure drop? I dont think we did?

Unless AIT stands for something other then AIR INTAKE TEMP then I believe what i saw was AIR INTAKE TEMPERATURE. The beginning of the log shows 101 degrees. By 9k rpm, the temp is 149 degrees. What is so hard to comprehend about that?
Well believe it.
There is a difference between charge temps and intake temps. Learn it and understand it.
The problem is that when "the worlds" best tuner can seem to word and or give all the information out on a particular subject it is biased. He did happen however to jab at another vendors product without any ill will though ...huh?
Anyway not to stray, have you EVER seen CHARGE TEMPS decrease during a 9000 rpm pull?
How much boost was being run? How far apart were the dyno runs?
You know it really doesn't matter because you are filled with misinformation and anger you won't have a logical conversation.
Don't go on an internet forum and spread half truths to increase business. Tell the whole story and give some theoretical and practical information to back your findings. When you come off with posts, like what we are debating right now, that are incomplete, people will infer that everyone elses products are inferior.
It is unfair and untruthful.
Nobody says or does anything about it thats why it is accepted on this forum. When someone does they are persecuted. Find someone or something else to defend because you just look like a salesman without any clue what you are doing or selling. Take it how you want "steve" its what I see.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jasil
I'll be grammatically correct when you learn how to spell.....Patience no Patients and Capital not Capitol........are you a teenager thats playing smart guy?
Yup a little teenager playing a smart guy. You got me.
Notice I said we all forget how to spell sometimes. But you must have missed that.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Planet Evo
Well believe it.
There is a difference between charge temps and intake temps. Learn it and understand it.
The problem is that when "the worlds" best tuner can seem to word and or give all the information out on a particular subject it is biased. He did happen however to jab at another vendors product without any ill will though ...huh?
Anyway not to stray, have you EVER seen CHARGE TEMPS decrease during a 9000 rpm pull?
How much boost was being run? How far apart were the dyno runs?
You know it really doesn't matter because you are filled with misinformation and anger you won't have a logical conversation.
Don't go on an internet forum and spread half truths to increase business. Tell the whole story and give some theoretical and practical information to back your findings. When you come off with posts, like what we are debating right now, that are incomplete, people will infer that everyone elses products are inferior.
It is unfair and untruthful.
Nobody says or does anything about it thats why it is accepted on this forum. When someone does they are persecuted. Find someone or something else to defend because you just look like a salesman without any clue what you are doing or selling. Take it how you want "steve" its what I see.
They are inferior though! If one intercooler increases "charge" air temps by 49 degrees and the other increases "charge" air temps by 7 degrees I know which one I will buy. Who said anything about decreasing "charge" air temps if somone did say decrease that would be a mistype. I'm done good luck in your Buschur bashing
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jasil;
They are inferior though! If one intercooler increases "charge" air temps by 49 degrees and the other increases "charge" air temps by 7 degrees I know which one I will buy. Who said anything about decreasing "charge" air temps if somone did say decrease that would be a mistype. I'm done good luck in your Buschur bashing
In order to claim they are inferior you need to base them on similar setups. Apples to apples. The two cars tested are completely different.
So again do some reading and think about things in a logical manner.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Planet Evo
Patients Jasil......and for the love of the english language at least use capitol letters and commas somewhere. Spelling we all tend to forget lol
Patience? Patinets?

You can't tell anybody how to say or type anything.

Scorke
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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Could a moderator come in and clean up all this ridiculous arguing?

DB said air intake temps went up with a particular intercooler.

If you can't say that without blowing up a thread with arguments, then the mods aren't doing there job here.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Wow. 17 pages. Wasn't this thread about Trent's car? I forget....
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by crcain
Could a moderator come in and clean up all this ridiculous arguing?

DB said air intake temps went up with a particular intercooler.

If you can't say that without blowing up a thread with arguments, then the mods aren't doing there job here.
Exactly. Trent posted up his dyno sheet. He has timeslips to prove his claim. What's the beef about? David got awesome power out of this vehicle, end of story.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:16 AM
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Wheres this video i want to see!! once again great job to Buschur and good driving man!
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Planet Evo
Well believe it.
There is a difference between charge temps and intake temps. Learn it and understand it.
The problem is that when "the worlds" best tuner can seem to word and or give all the information out on a particular subject it is biased. He did happen however to jab at another vendors product without any ill will though ...huh?
Anyway not to stray, have you EVER seen CHARGE TEMPS decrease during a 9000 rpm pull?
How much boost was being run? How far apart were the dyno runs?
You know it really doesn't matter because you are filled with misinformation and anger you won't have a logical conversation.
Don't go on an internet forum and spread half truths to increase business. Tell the whole story and give some theoretical and practical information to back your findings. When you come off with posts, like what we are debating right now, that are incomplete, people will infer that everyone elses products are inferior.
It is unfair and untruthful.
Nobody says or does anything about it thats why it is accepted on this forum. When someone does they are persecuted. Find someone or something else to defend because you just look like a salesman without any clue what you are doing or selling. Take it how you want "steve" its what I see.
OMG your driving me nuts. OK lets re cap this real quick becasue after this i'm doneHow am i trying to push sales in any direction with my posting??? I'm not buschur, I'm actually ANOTHER VENDOR so please explain that BS when you get a chance.And 99.9999999999% of people reading this thread know exactly what Dave meant when he said inlet temps. Stop trying to imply that there are so many variables that werent included. The dyno runs were done sometimes 2 mins apart, sometimes 10. It doesnt matter really because the first pull the intercooler gained more then others.Now dont get me wrong, i think the perrin intercooler is a great product, it just seems I maxxed it out. put it on a car with a stock turbo or a small upgrade and I'm sure it would perform wonderfully. its just not designed to support 700+ CRANK hp. Dave did not take a JAB at perrin at all, just posted the facts.dont even answer my first question, cuz i'm just getting annoyed having someone tell me my car isnt doing something it isnt
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