HTA 35r, new power gains and the quest for 150 mph trap speeds.
Dave. I love you already for all the testing and r&d you do for our cars.
But I'd love you more if you share the secretes.
Oh and FYI guys I met dave at the shootout. Had an issue with a part that was 4yrs old of his! and he had since redesigned it so it was almost a complete different part. Lets just say he stood behind his 4yr old out dated design and did me very WELL!. A real stand up guy!
But I'd love you more if you share the secretes.
Oh and FYI guys I met dave at the shootout. Had an issue with a part that was 4yrs old of his! and he had since redesigned it so it was almost a complete different part. Lets just say he stood behind his 4yr old out dated design and did me very WELL!. A real stand up guy!
Wow... that much power on a 35R... WTF is the point of even getting a 37R?
Good God Dave, if I got the money when I get back from the Philippines, I'm sold on an HTA35R kit.
Good God Dave, if I got the money when I get back from the Philippines, I'm sold on an HTA35R kit.
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As long as we are on the subject, the "37r" as it is called, is only good for about 40 whp max over a good 35r from any testing I have done and that is pushing it. My choice is 35r, after that, right now, there isn't anything that offers enough extra power to offset the lag that you have to tolerate.
Pay attention to these guys people! They know what they are talking about!
(Keep in mind from the above they are talking about a well setup 35R.. not HTA)
I have not weighed my car at all this year, neither of them (black drag car is mine too). Hell I barely dyno'd it! haha I don't know what it weighs. I'm going to guess between 3000 and 3100 with Trent in it. Trent is about 170 pounds.
The peak power with a standard 35r is about the same. I keep saying this as I don't want anyone running out to buy an HTA thinking they are going to be killing the top end power of there current 3582 turbo.
Yes, I still have the Full Race header on the car. My winter project is to build a new header for the car. I want to do a one off custom header just for my own car and have some ideas. This current kit is going to be going on a friends car that is here now.
The upgrade from a normal 35r to an HTA, I AM GUESSING, will be around $500. You will need to send the turbo directly to FP to have it done.
evovin, I answered that question atleast twice in this thread. There is no answer to it, go back and read what I wrote please.
The peak power with a standard 35r is about the same. I keep saying this as I don't want anyone running out to buy an HTA thinking they are going to be killing the top end power of there current 3582 turbo.
Yes, I still have the Full Race header on the car. My winter project is to build a new header for the car. I want to do a one off custom header just for my own car and have some ideas. This current kit is going to be going on a friends car that is here now.
The upgrade from a normal 35r to an HTA, I AM GUESSING, will be around $500. You will need to send the turbo directly to FP to have it done.
evovin, I answered that question atleast twice in this thread. There is no answer to it, go back and read what I wrote please.
It looks like the new hta35r will spool as fast as my current non hta 3065. It would be intersting to see what a HTA3065 will do.
Don't get me wrong here. I am happy with the power, the curve and peak are extremely impressive. The turbo is still not what I PERSONALLY consider fun to drive. Sure, when it hits it's fun, but waiting for it is not fun. Under 4,000 rpm is not fun. For a great/fun daily driver I say hands down go with the 20gLT/Green turbo, now that is a fun car to drive. With 4 different cars now running in the 10's with the 20gLT/Green and quite a few others running 11.0-11.1's, it is the turbo of choice for me 99% of the time.
FYI
Making a flat torque curve in a 2 liter engine is extremely difficult to do , so while what you are saying Ted is correct it isn't something that happens very often, if at all.
Even our black shop car has a difficult time making a flat torque curve. It doesn't even make peak torque until 8,000 rpm and can't keep it flat past 9,000 rpm. So it's a pipe dream asking for a flat torque curve with any usable RPM.
I'd say a flat HP curve is what you want, having one that climbs would be ideal as long as the car also has a usable power band. This takes us back to the black shop car. The HP continues to climp past 9,000 rpm but for comparison at 6600 rpm the black car is making 350 whp where my RS is making 650 whp.
One of these cars (my RS) has a power curve you can drive and enjoy, the black car does not.
Even our black shop car has a difficult time making a flat torque curve. It doesn't even make peak torque until 8,000 rpm and can't keep it flat past 9,000 rpm. So it's a pipe dream asking for a flat torque curve with any usable RPM.
I'd say a flat HP curve is what you want, having one that climbs would be ideal as long as the car also has a usable power band. This takes us back to the black shop car. The HP continues to climp past 9,000 rpm but for comparison at 6600 rpm the black car is making 350 whp where my RS is making 650 whp.
One of these cars (my RS) has a power curve you can drive and enjoy, the black car does not.
