Originally Posted by GTijoejoe

I'm slightly confuzed, what is the TC going to tell you about the clutch?
Either way, the second you drove off the lot and you found this you should of turned around..... in addition, stop and go constant traffic of course is harsh on your clutch (especially every 5 seconds if you have to ride the clutch to go), no offense, but having a degree in automotive anything does not give you talent (I'm sure you are perfectly good driver though), I would say the same even if you were a clutch engineer.

In addition, only because your clutch did not last, does not mean that the OEM application is inadequate, you have no idea what happened to that clutch before you purchased the car.
For example, part quality issue, or.... the specific tests done at the factory. In my experience almost every factory has a suspension spec adjustment and a chassis dyno test (this is not a power pull), brake test, engine test etc etc.... my point is you'll be surprised sometimes how hard those brand new 0miles vehicles may be driven....even after the cars are usually also tested on an external drive before they are stuck in a lot to be shipped........

This leads me to my final point, sometimes you get a bad clutch, you should discuss this with Mits Motors North America, NOT your stupid service manager because he knows dick, and hes probably a dick anyways (sounds like it).
Any serious warranty issue should be discussed directly with corp. MMNA.
My TC blew at 26k, (99% highway miles, 100% stock) I contacted my local mits service dept., they took my info and than noted to me that I did not have a power train warranty because I was not the first owner. I was pissed, but obviously (ignorantly) took their word for it because they should know better than I, they are the dealership service, and they have my info.....

Well turns out, I replaced the TC on my own dime, went back to the dealer (different) for some other warranty crap, and found out that I still have all warranties, regardless of how many ppl own the car, my info in the system is still valid, and there was never a claim submitted for a powertrain warranty...... which means the deuche never even checked, he just told me something that he thought he knew, and he was wrong.... getting even better because of the economy, that dealer does not exist anymore, so there is no way to prove my horrible experience and the bull **** I was told by a mits. dealer. So I am ****ed right in my *** by a retarded mistake by the dealer......I'm currently opening an investigation/complaint with MMNA.

Originally Posted by RONNEN

I think your misunderstanding my point but i get yours..what ever could've, would,ve, should,ve happen with this clutch did'nt. regardless of prior misuse or abuse by employees before i took ownership. i did take it back and mentioned it to the dealer and he said the car needs a break period wich is about 500 to 1000 miles wich made sense. so during this time i did not go above 60 mph or 3,000 rpm so there was no indication of anything wrong aside from the feeling of a soft clutch and when i say soft clutch i mean not the kind youd expect from a high performance car.

For example why is it that my evo like others comes with aftermarket high performance brembo brakes and sticky yokohama tires and not regular run of the mill mitsubishi brakes and lower end tires. because those two brands are bonefide guaranteed for stopping and handling.. hands down..so why not put a high performance aftermarket clutch like ACT OR CLUTCHMASTER and call it a day, ill tell you why because like brembo and yokohama their guarentied and that would force mitsubishi to put its money where its mouth is for the five yr powertrain warrenty.

Last but not least my refrence to my education was in no way indicating talent, just an elaberation of my knowledge above the average layman so that the reader of this column could get a better understanding of my experiance,no offense taken.so as the saying goes "when you want somthing done right do your self" i will be installing a superior clutch..good luck with that complaint

Originally Posted by RONNEN

Dont know yet who supplies the evo x stock clutch but heard the samething about the excedy in the 9. my friend has the 9 and drove it and they feel complety different its alittle more more hard core then the 10..

Originally Posted by GTijoejoe

Here's a question, are we comparing clutch feeling or holding performance (slipping)???

As a brake designer, I see the common misconception of brake feeling vs performance often.....similar to a clutch, the pedal feeling is designed around the intent of the 'target customer'.......

It seems to me that the X is slightly softer all around than the 9.....