Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

Ams Evo Cam Test

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 17, 2009 | 12:28 AM
  #586  
Boost3dxEvO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (135)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 0
From: Indianapolis
Originally Posted by konstantinosIX
If I go with Tomei,is it better to choose the solid camshafts with the solid pivots or should I use just the lash camshafts?
Lash.. The solid lifters just cause issues and it is more $
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 09:14 PM
  #587  
CZ4A's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Thailand
oh god !! I just saw this thread after got BC 272

It's seem no value added
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 09:18 PM
  #588  
SRT-TO-EVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,404
Likes: 0
From: Westchester, NY
Originally Posted by CZ4A
oh god !! I just saw this thread after got BC 272

It's seem no value added
BC's are garbage lol.
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:07 AM
  #589  
jbrown's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,581
Likes: 0
From: S. Florida
Originally Posted by SRT-TO-EVO
BC's are garbage lol.
BC's are not garbage, they just weren't a match for Martin's car. In fact, they are the ONLY cams that added power down low.

The three best cams in this test might only be in the middle of the pack on a different block with a different head and turbo.

All cams are a calculated compromise based mainly on rpm range, but also on flow and VE at given points. Did anyone notice that all of the highest peak-power cams had the worst low end? The Kelfords were exceptional, but that just means they were the perfect match for Martin's setup. Anyone who buys cams based solely on this test is confused unless you have the same bore, stroke, turbo, manifolds, and headwork as Martin's car.

Last edited by Fireball; Apr 1, 2009 at 12:51 PM. Reason: Flaming...
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 08:14 AM
  #590  
Mellon Racing's Avatar
Account Disabled
iTrader: (38)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 9,319
Likes: 1
From: Virginia Beach, Virginia
I've tuned a few evos and the BC guys consistently make less power than others...I don't recommend them.
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:37 AM
  #591  
soceur77's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
From: Deployed/Killeen, Tx
Originally Posted by jbrown
BC's are not garbage, they just weren't a match for Martin's car. In fact, they are the ONLY cams that added power down low.

The three best cams in this test might only be in the middle of the pack on a different block with a different head and turbo.

All cams are a calculated compromise based mainly on rpm range, but also on flow and VE at given points. Did anyone notice that all of the highest peak-power cams had the worst low end? The Kelfords were exceptional, but that just means they were the perfect match for Martin's setup. Anyone who buys cams based solely on this test is confused unless you have the same bore, stroke, turbo, manifolds, and headwork as Martin's car.
Cant comment on BC's, but jbrown makes some very valid points. What i got from this very much appreciated test was which cams 'seem' best for my goals which is responsivness and mid range. Theres no way I would/could think that my car and many others for that matter would make similar power to any of the cams tested here as the stats/build of the tested car is much superior to the majority here.

Last edited by Fireball; Apr 1, 2009 at 12:51 PM. Reason: flaming removed
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:44 AM
  #592  
SRT-TO-EVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,404
Likes: 0
From: Westchester, NY
Originally Posted by jbrown
BC's are not garbage, they just weren't a match for Martin's car. In fact, they are the ONLY cams that added power down low.

The three best cams in this test might only be in the middle of the pack on a different block with a different head and turbo.

All cams are a calculated compromise based mainly on rpm range, but also on flow and VE at given points. Did anyone notice that all of the highest peak-power cams had the worst low end? The Kelfords were exceptional, but that just means they were the perfect match for Martin's setup. Anyone who buys cams based solely on this test is confused unless you have the same bore, stroke, turbo, manifolds, and headwork as Martin's car.
Hey Jbrown is that why people make no power with them? Anywho any cam that comes several degrees off due to QC is garbage in my eyes (besides the fact they don't make power). Hey that's what opinions are for right? You keep running BC's, I will continue saying they're garbage .

Last edited by Fireball; Apr 1, 2009 at 12:53 PM. Reason: flaming removed
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2009 | 01:10 AM
  #593  
03evokid's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
From: ATL
i put hks 280s in and gained alot of hp with the tune im happy with those n i only paid 300 for them
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 07:26 AM
  #594  
spooln2004's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
From: Manheim pa
I will be ordering the kelford 272 soon thanks for the right up man
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 09:22 AM
  #595  
E85evo8's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 462
Likes: 0
From: New York
very happy w/my GSC S's overall performance!! I'm running stock motor otherwise and ETS equal length 58mm turbo kit etc..
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2009 | 02:53 PM
  #596  
JC evo1's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 874
Likes: 0
From: Australia
Originally Posted by E85evo8
very happy w/my GSC S's overall performance!! I'm running stock motor otherwise and ETS equal length 58mm turbo kit etc..
+1 for GSC S2, couldnt be happier with how the car runs, smooth idle and no drivability problems

heres the Kelfords vs S2 graphs from the 1st page
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:37 AM
  #597  
WADADLIG_OZ's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,834
Likes: 0
From: Orlando FL
bump

WADAD
Reply
Old May 10, 2009 | 08:30 AM
  #598  
05onblocks's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Terre Haute IN
i didnt read thru the whole thread but does anybody run Helix 272's thats what i have. I havent had any issues with them..
Reply
Old May 12, 2009 | 06:43 PM
  #599  
Evo H8's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 260
Likes: 1
From: Albany, NY
I have the Kelford 272's with my FP Red and my scientific analysis is..... they rock.
Reply
Old May 13, 2009 | 07:52 PM
  #600  
john.schuber's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
From: Vail, Colorado
I can't decide between S2's Kelfords or Cossie M3's. What do you guys think for an FP Red set up
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:10 PM.