Forced Performance Evo Red Turbo data
which is the temp at the MAF. Which is the same as compressor inlet temp. So i thought Delta T is the difference of the temp between the inlet (same as AIT) and the outlet. Hence Delta T = outlet temp - AIT(or inlet temp) .....is what i thought...I'm not sure which one is right AIT or IAT by the way.. same thing.. i think
Last edited by mplspilot; Jul 9, 2008 at 03:53 PM. Reason: whoa, i'm dyslexic i think...
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To reduce confusion I use CIT/COT or T1/T2, AIT/IAT is too locked in to EFI terminology meaning "air temp going into engine", but yes the CIT/T1 is at the exact point of airflow measurement.
By IAT i mean AIT which is the temp at the MAF. Which is the same as compressor inlet temp. So i thought Delta T is the difference of the temp between the inlet (same as AIT) and the outlet. Hence Delta T = AIT(or inlet temp) - outlet temp .....is what i thought...
I'm not sure which one is right AIT or IAT by the way.. same thing.. i think
which is the temp at the MAF. Which is the same as compressor inlet temp. So i thought Delta T is the difference of the temp between the inlet (same as AIT) and the outlet. Hence Delta T = AIT(or inlet temp) - outlet temp .....is what i thought...I'm not sure which one is right AIT or IAT by the way.. same thing.. i think
Last edited by GrocMax; Jul 9, 2008 at 03:57 PM.
Wow GrocMax you're like a turbogod lol. I had to reread what you said literally 10 times over to START making sense of it but the more I read it over and over the more I'm understanding it.
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I edited that explanation of what 'compressor efficiency' is as it was sorta rambling stuttering and old-mannish.
I'd like to point out not all turbo companies define 'compressor efficiency' in the same way, so direct comparisons are hard to make brand to brand.
I can't remember what company it was that showed their compressor maps in sort of a cartoon thought balloon fashion, Holset maybe? But its a better way to phrase it for performance apps, they show the end of the map.
I'd like to point out not all turbo companies define 'compressor efficiency' in the same way, so direct comparisons are hard to make brand to brand.
I can't remember what company it was that showed their compressor maps in sort of a cartoon thought balloon fashion, Holset maybe? But its a better way to phrase it for performance apps, they show the end of the map.
You must be the only one here who cares. If it ain't a dyno graph it gets ignored on here. Makes me not want to bother trying to help educate the masses on HOW those dyno graphs get made.
All I see is stupid crap like
"OK, so how much power does it make on pump gas at the 40th meridian when I wear Gucci underwear after an abalone and sun dried plum pizza lunch?"
and
"I want you to spend 30K and show me back to back comparisons between an apple core, a squished grape, and a ravenous aardvark while I sit here on my *** eating popcorn complaining and benefiting from other people's hard work without spending any money, time, thought, or effort of my own"
Now if that ain't sig line material I dunno what is.
All I see is stupid crap like
"OK, so how much power does it make on pump gas at the 40th meridian when I wear Gucci underwear after an abalone and sun dried plum pizza lunch?"
and
"I want you to spend 30K and show me back to back comparisons between an apple core, a squished grape, and a ravenous aardvark while I sit here on my *** eating popcorn complaining and benefiting from other people's hard work without spending any money, time, thought, or effort of my own"
Now if that ain't sig line material I dunno what is.
LMAO some people on here do appreciate your efforts man...dont worry
GrocMax, don't get down on people for not appreciating your charts. To be honest, I looked at them and don't have any idea what it all is, I admit to being stupid and I am guessing there are some others here as dumb as I am. I think we just don't know what it is we are reading or what it all means, honestly.
Most of us can read a dyno sheet though.
**I wrote the above after only reading up to page 15. Obviously I was correct from other statements. haha
Most of us can read a dyno sheet though.
**I wrote the above after only reading up to page 15. Obviously I was correct from other statements. haha
Last edited by David Buschur; Jul 9, 2008 at 05:42 PM.
GrocMax, This is great stuff!!! I really appreciate you posting the Motec graphs and taking the time to explain it so well. Simply awesome reading!
ok...well im not knocking the red...but i believe the difference in green and red are going to be fairly the same....the red that got dynoed on that car was not your average daily driven evo that u see everywhere...so of course u can push out 530 with race gas....im getting my car tuned in the next 2 weeks with the green and im expecting to get close to..if not 500 and thats with meth...so i would like to see the red on meth instead of race fuel
ok...well im not knocking the red...but i believe the difference in green and red are going to be fairly the same....the red that got dynoed on that car was not your average daily driven evo that u see everywhere...so of course u can push out 530 with race gas....im getting my car tuned in the next 2 weeks with the green and im expecting to get close to..if not 500 and thats with meth...so i would like to see the red on meth instead of race fuel
Have you not read the difference in flow? I don't think your Green on meth would come even close to 500 on the BR dyno.