Forced Performance Evo Red Turbo data
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I don't feel thaaaaat bad for anyone who bought a 35R or whatever - sure it sucks when you're "obsoleted" but that's life, better stuff comes out all the time. Try living in the IT world where your stuff's obsolete before it even gets to market! 
Last edited by theshadow; Jul 9, 2008 at 07:45 AM.
The upgrades are going to be available in about a month or so. No we dont have a price just yet keep posted 
I understand there are a limited amount of REDs available, but what about the folks that already have 9 turbo's sitting around?
Can we send them into you or FP? I paid $500 for a 9 turbo last year with everything included and don't want to have to worry about re-selling it.
How much to convert my 9 into the RED? What is the time frame?
Thanks
jason
Can we send them into you or FP? I paid $500 for a 9 turbo last year with everything included and don't want to have to worry about re-selling it.
How much to convert my 9 into the RED? What is the time frame?
Thanks
jason
Ditto on this...and can it be done on a 10.5 VIII turbo. I have one in my garage. I'm assuming so...just swap the compressor housing and put in the red internals?
I know most are concerned with the power and spool, but I'm curious if the exhaust note has changed at all? Some complain that the 35r gives a fart can-ish sound and with this being a larger turbo, I'm wondering if some of the deep characteristics of the smaller turbo will remain.
Hope not, I love that "fart can" sound because it means you are hearing the actual exhaust pulses and not the restriction of a small exhaust side.
Who ever said it's a HTA3076 is talking out their ***. This is still a reverse rotation compressor wheel so it can not possibly be the same wheel. I suppose it could be a reverse rotation version of the same wheel, but that would be pure speculation.
In my mind, as long as it doesn't surge hard, the lack of a ported shroud is a good thing. The ported shroud usually knocks down peak efficiency a bit and cuts off a few lb/min at the far right edge of the map. It does have the effect of smoothing and broading the mid efficiency islands though which is great for pump gas power. I can live with a little surge if it means I get 20-30 more HP up top.
Who ever said it's a HTA3076 is talking out their ***. This is still a reverse rotation compressor wheel so it can not possibly be the same wheel. I suppose it could be a reverse rotation version of the same wheel, but that would be pure speculation.
In my mind, as long as it doesn't surge hard, the lack of a ported shroud is a good thing. The ported shroud usually knocks down peak efficiency a bit and cuts off a few lb/min at the far right edge of the map. It does have the effect of smoothing and broading the mid efficiency islands though which is great for pump gas power. I can live with a little surge if it means I get 20-30 more HP up top.
??? this turbo will be sweet dont get me wrong but I don't see it touching the HTA35r in the topend and upper rpms.
Hopefully one of the gurus can post a log from the dyno pull showing IAT and boost vs. rpm??
I'd really love to see if boost holds steady at 38psi to the limiter and what if any adverse heat may have been built. I understand that results will vary from set-up to set-up, but DB has given us so many test results in the past that most can get a fair estimate on how this unique turbo will perform with their platforms.
This is a perfect 'sleeper' turbo set-up. Great for the cali guys. Mid to high 10's on pumpgas stockish motor in a 3200lbs+ car would be a dream.
I'd really love to see if boost holds steady at 38psi to the limiter and what if any adverse heat may have been built. I understand that results will vary from set-up to set-up, but DB has given us so many test results in the past that most can get a fair estimate on how this unique turbo will perform with their platforms.
This is a perfect 'sleeper' turbo set-up. Great for the cali guys. Mid to high 10's on pumpgas stockish motor in a 3200lbs+ car would be a dream.
I don't think this turbo makes a 35r a thing of the past... But dollar for dollar this is a bang for the buck when you consider manifolds, downpipe etc etc. (cost to install).
Also curious to see if the 'meagan type' aftermarket tubular headers would have any positive impact on this turbo. Seems like the added runner volume could take advantage of the larger cold side wheel.
Hopefully one of the gurus can post a log from the dyno pull showing IAT and boost vs. rpm??
I'd really love to see if boost holds steady at 38psi to the limiter and what if any adverse heat may have been built. I understand that results will vary from set-up to set-up, but DB has given us so many test results in the past that most can get a fair estimate on how this unique turbo will perform with their platforms.
This is a perfect 'sleeper' turbo set-up. Great for the cali guys. Mid to high 10's on pumpgas stockish motor in a 3200lbs+ car would be a dream.
I'd really love to see if boost holds steady at 38psi to the limiter and what if any adverse heat may have been built. I understand that results will vary from set-up to set-up, but DB has given us so many test results in the past that most can get a fair estimate on how this unique turbo will perform with their platforms.
This is a perfect 'sleeper' turbo set-up. Great for the cali guys. Mid to high 10's on pumpgas stockish motor in a 3200lbs+ car would be a dream.
Buschur already posted the boost curve in the 9sec9/OKIX thread and surprise, it doesn't hold and he didn't try to force it to -
Since there has been some posting lately of FMIC air temps and how a particular product works, I thought it would be good to post a log from the car yesterday.
We were dealing with very hot/humid conditions. The datalog screen shot I am going to post is the final run on the car after 3 consecutive runs, all done in 23 minutes. We had one small squirrel cage fan on the car.
I have highlighted the peak boost and the air temp/water temp/mph etc at that point for reference.
Here's the screen shot with further explaination below it.
Starting RPM 2508
Starting Air temp 100.4
Starting coolant temp 156.2
Starting vehicle speed 28.85
Starting boost .23
Peak boost 38.88
Ending RPM 8355
Ending Air temp 104
Ending coolant temp 158
Ending vehicle speed 96.20
Ending boost 26.88
Overview, Coolant temp with NO engine fan running only rose 1.8 degrees.
Air temp with one small fan only rose 3.6 degrees.
The air temp sensor is located in the upper i/c pipe about 10" before the inlet to the throttle body.
The radiator is a super impressive part too. Indy is actually going to be working on making our small radiator kit in this same design. This should allow for a radiator half the size of stock with cooling capabilities much greater than the stock radiator. When the new radiator is finished I will offer the radiator and electric pump as a DIY kit that bolts into the car.
Good information and good reference with me providing an actual screen shot.
We were dealing with very hot/humid conditions. The datalog screen shot I am going to post is the final run on the car after 3 consecutive runs, all done in 23 minutes. We had one small squirrel cage fan on the car.
I have highlighted the peak boost and the air temp/water temp/mph etc at that point for reference.
Here's the screen shot with further explaination below it.
Starting RPM 2508
Starting Air temp 100.4
Starting coolant temp 156.2
Starting vehicle speed 28.85
Starting boost .23
Peak boost 38.88
Ending RPM 8355
Ending Air temp 104
Ending coolant temp 158
Ending vehicle speed 96.20
Ending boost 26.88
Overview, Coolant temp with NO engine fan running only rose 1.8 degrees.
Air temp with one small fan only rose 3.6 degrees.
The air temp sensor is located in the upper i/c pipe about 10" before the inlet to the throttle body.
The radiator is a super impressive part too. Indy is actually going to be working on making our small radiator kit in this same design. This should allow for a radiator half the size of stock with cooling capabilities much greater than the stock radiator. When the new radiator is finished I will offer the radiator and electric pump as a DIY kit that bolts into the car.
Good information and good reference with me providing an actual screen shot.
WOW, what a douche, you still don't get it do you? How many times does someone have to tell you? BOOST DOES NOT EQUAL POWER IF IT IS JUST HOT AIR!
Buschur already posted the boost curve in the 9sec9/OKIX thread and surprise, it doesn't hold and he didn't try to force it to -
Buschur already posted the boost curve in the 9sec9/OKIX thread and surprise, it doesn't hold and he didn't try to force it to -
Hey Smartguy, I didn't see the post. I asked a simple question. i don't remember saying boost equals power either. What we were doing is comparing this turbo to a 35r. Why don't you take the time to read the entire post before deciding to be a f@@@ng internet tuogh guy? Keep it clean, the world is a small place.
I just wanted to see a log and there it is.
Tone it down man. Spank your monkey and smoke a cigarette or something you are way too uptight.