My point on the Data Pics was to show an extremely fast spooling example of a Green vs a probably slower spooling example of a Red. That could possibly be a good comparison for the 2 extremes, the size of the box if you will. I'd be interested to see similar data as others log it on the AEM's or evoscan. Only thing about evoscan is you would possibly need a 5 bar map. 33.5 psi might not be enough for direct comparison's to the AEM log data.

 

No he gets them at the Piggly Wiggly. I think 9sec9 said you can fit 14 cases of beer in the trunk and fill the rear seat with groceries...or was it the other way around. Well since he has a full interior he can do that, thats more than a lot of "street cars" have.

 

The 14 cases of beer in the trunk is the most important part.

What I was referring to was under the hood

 

, I'm sure it would make 400 whp with bolt ons and a stock engine on a Mustang. It might just happen in a couple of weeks .

 

One thing to keep in mind is that Trent's car is not a lot more, if any, than a bolt on car. Forged internals would add to the reliability, but the exhaust, cams, turbo and other items are standard off the shelf items at Buschur's. Lots and lots of cars have the 96.597 % of the same items. Trent was even out side doing his own work while I was there. It boils down to HOW MANY of those bolt on parts do you have? At what point does a 'Bolt-on' become 'Fully Built' in perception?

 

Thats a great thing to talk about because Its funny how i had a complete bolt on car, and everyone said how my car was "Stock Like" until i put the larger turbo on now no one wants to play because its a "FULLY BUILT" car. People are just weird, i say do what makes ya happy

 

I think the obvious pieces that separate average joe and some of the BR cars is head/cam/aem and that's substantial...most guys have decent to good cams but stock head and stock ecu so it'll be real interesting what it can do on a more common setup.

I can't wait for a customer to get one of these so I can find out what I can do with it. Most of the green guys get 380-390 on my tunes so hopefully the red will carry that out a little further on pump without much more lag.

 

Ohh BTW chris, it was my CrankShaft Position Sensor

 

glad you got it fixed!

 

i cant wait till i get my red...and cant wait to see the results of it on a bolt on car...this 2-3 weeks is gona kill me but its gona be worth it when Kreionic tunes it at CBRD

 

I have been looking at the dyno sheets from the red and white used for testing. They were using an aftermarket manifold which is said to spool up to 700 rpm slower and produce 25-35 more whp. If you take a look at the reds dyno its peak tq is about 4700 rpm if you look at the white it is about 3800 (peak tq). Now take a look at a dyno on a white not using a high flow manifold about 3500 rpm peak tq. The diffrence with the white is about 300 rpm. So im guessing the spool will be somewhat close to 200-400 rpm faster than what is shown on the reds dyno. Maby peak tq 4300-4500 which is still pretty good because the average green ive seen is about 3800-4000.

Now how much more power can this make compared to a green between 22 and 28 psi the (average joe range)?

 

What type of real world benefit to you think a stage 3 head could produce with this turbo application? As a reference point how much hp does the head give on a 35r set-up?

This head may be my next 'bolt-on'.

 

What type of real world benefit to you think a stage 3 head could produce with this turbo application? As a reference point how much hp does the head give on a 35r set-up?

On a green your looking at about 10 whp MD.

 

You're saying a stage 3 head only provides 10whp more with a green?

 

In theory, you should be able to run more boost with a Stage 3 head. The boost alone would produce more power than 10whp