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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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@ sunoco pumpgas 110 leaded
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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**** I want sunoco 110 pump gas stations here in houston.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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Do you guys know of any stock evo 9 turbo or green that can hold 27.5 psi at 8000rpm???

This turbo is great.

Spool is great too, given that an 18 psi wga was used, which is supposed to "delay" the spool compared to the stock wga.


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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ninekrevs
meth and 110 leaded race gas sound like a even comparison to me. The differences between the Evo 8 and Evo 9 engine at this level of modification shouldn't have that big of an impact on whp.
I thought you could go leaner on meth than on 110 race gas , maybe I'm wrong.

Yeah I know that at this level of modification there's not a lot of difference in whp, I just wanted to point that out.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kkarim
3800rpms isn't bad at all.. what gear is that in?
4th gear.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EE
Do you guys know of any stock evo 9 turbo or green that can hold 27.5 psi at 8000rpm???

This turbo is great.

Spool is great too, given that an 18 psi wga was used, which is supposed to "delay" the spool compared to the stock wga.


27.5psi on HKS 280 280 camshafts. On stock cams the car would hardly drop boost at all.

And no, there is no other stock footprint turbo that will hold more boost longer.

FP wastegate actuators do not delay the spoolup. If anything, they increase it. An actuators purpose is to keep the wastegate closed for longer before it starts to open. This increases spoolup time.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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TTP, the surge you expereinced...do you think opening up the engine to help it breathe more would reduce that? Like 65mm TB, IM, etc...Or is it just a symptom of that particular turbo.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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TTP, the surge you expereinced...do you think opening up the engine to help it breathe more would reduce that? Like 65mm TB, IM, etc...Or is it just a symptom of that particular turbo.
Erik for President
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ninekrevs
That doesn't sound too impressive since you make close to those numbers with the stock Evo 9 turbo.

Here is a thread where you made 429whp/469wtq on the stock 9 turbo
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=351292


Here is another thread where you made 431whp/456wtq on the stock 9 turbo
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=359240
Its an Evo 9 turbo with different wheels. What did you expect 42R results?

Here is the relative mod list for the test car with STOCK FMIC
463.1whp/445wtq Mustang Dyno AWD 500
Sunoco 110 octane
Maximum boost 33-34psi with slight compressor surge to 5000rpms
Spoolup 3800rpms
32psi @ 4000rpms
27.6psi @ 8000rpms

FP EVORed Turbocharger 10.5 single puck with HP actuator, unported.
HKS 280 280, both intake and exhaust.
Adjustable exhaust cam gears 0/0
stock, stock retainers
ARP head studs
Ported coated manifold
Stock FMIC
745cc TTP injectors
342 fuel pump
Megan Tubular O2 housing
Megan 3” DP
Megan 3” test pipe
Megan 3” catback
Forge Evo 15 valve
ACT HDSS clutch
Stock ECU Custom tune by TTP-Engineering

Stock intake manifold
Stock head (no porting)
Stock shortblock
Stock Turbo Air inlet pipe
Stock upper IC pipe/hoses
Stock throttle body
Stock exhaust manifold (no porting)
Stock ignition system and coils

+35-40whp is an excellent gain on a stock turbo footprint on a stock compressor housing.

What ever smoke and mirrors hype you guys dream about expecting 500+whp out of a stock Evo 9 compressor housing is not going to happen.

Forced Performance did a great job piecing together this turbo.

In our opinion here is our take on the Evo footprint turbo lineup.

Stock Evo 9 turbo -
- Maximum boost with wastegate line 34psi
- Maximum Power 433whp Mustang Dyno

EvoGreen turbo -
- Maximum boost with wastegate line 34psi
- Maximum Power 455whp Mustang Dyno

EvoRed turbo -
- Maximum boost with wastegate line 34psi
- Maximum Power 475whp Mustang Dyno
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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Yeah, you guys are right. I keep forgetting NO METH...
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Erik for President
So, is that a yes?

I'm just the car nut...Aby's the tech genius. So, if I ask a dumb question it shouldn't surprise anybody
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kkarim
to the people who are receving the Red's now, did any of you guys get it ported/coated as well? I was told by FP that this might delay it a couple of extra weeks (lord knows how much in FP years).
Yes I did got both options. I was one of the first ones to order I was told it should be a couple of weeks. Havent gotten it yet.

TTP thats awesome I may have to take the drive up to come get my car tuned by you guys. Keep up the good work thanks for the results.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EE
This turbo is great.Spool is great too, given that an 18 psi wga was used, which is supposed to "delay" the spool compared to the stock wga.
Please clarify the above statement. This is a nonsensical supposition. Not the part about the Red being a great turbo, but the delayed spoolup attributed to the FP HD WGA.

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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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I'm not sure why it happens but I've seen quite a few upgraded WGA evos have lazy spool but high mid/high boost compared to the stock WGA. Maybe a spring or adjustment problem.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mellon
I'm not sure why it happens but I've seen quite a few upgraded WGA evos have lazy spool but high mid/high boost compared to the stock WGA. Maybe a spring or adjustment problem.
Yeah, probably if comparing the stock IX WGA to the FP HD WGA and the same turbo spools better with the stock WGA, then it would be a preload(adjustment) issue.

I doubt that it could be an inherent characteristic of the FP HD WGA, since it has a heavier spring than the stock unit. Also, since it is billed as an 18 PSI actuator you'd think that it would keep the puck on its seat longer due to the higher seat pressure.

So, yeah, if properly preloaded you'd think that you could get better spoolup with the FP unit. Almost by definition it shouldn't be fully open until 18 PSI is reached. And, by the same token you'd think that the lighter spring in the stock IX WGA would allow earlier puck movement.
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