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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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If you get the FP oil supply with the filter (vs. the one they sell that comes without the inline filter), how cumbersome is the process of changing the filter? Do you need to undo the oil line at the head to change/inspect it?
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
If you get the FP oil supply with the filter (vs. the one they sell that comes without the inline filter), how cumbersome is the process of changing the filter? Do you need to undo the oil line at the head to change/inspect it?
Here's a pic I recently found on a thread with the line and filter installed. It looks like there's some room to get your hands in there.

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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by vigilante.zen
Regardless of what you do.... All I can say is that I can recommend the GM MAF and the translator as one of the most important upgrades. That helped so much for me with drivability. There were just a ton of little quirky problems... without... this beautiful piece of equipment! Havent made it back to the dyno yet. It will be soon though! I also have the FP Red with 1200's.

Not needed w/ a Red; stock ECU/MAF is more than able to handle the requirements to run without problems. The "quirky" problems were most likely due to the stock ECU not being tuned correctly.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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^, I am inclined to agree. I am running 1000 cc injectors on stock ecu and stock MAF. tuned by Mellon. No quirks here, just power!

p.s. just received tracking info for my FP oil return line
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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I am not the first to speak of such quirky problems.... My tuner is one of the best on the east coast. He is more than knowledgeable.... So to say something along the line is foolish... All i was doing was offering some info on the GM MAF AND TRANSLATOR, and my experience with them on my car. I would recommend it to anyone. Leave it at that
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Im gonna have to agree with vigilante ^^+1.. running a MAF-T has an abundance of options to fine tune.. I am going to run the same setup on 93 oct. at around 29-30 psi. I will have a built bottom end (2.0)and head (Buschur Stage3), but regardless, after seeing what the translator can do versus the MAF, there's no reason not to go with the "T". tuning is sooo much easier and defined. Anyway, GL either way, you should have great results.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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Well, my 2¢ would be that if you call FP themselves, they will tell you 880 injectors; which is what i'll be running along with the 255 which i still don't have. What i do have is Buschur's Turbo back with test pipe, Buschur's O2 housing, Kelford 264/270 cams (Evo 9's have that lift), ARP Studs, Full-Race Exhaust Mani, K&N Cone Filter, AMS FMIC, Greedy Timer, AEM Truboost, AEM Wideband, AEM Voltmeter, and Tuned by TopSpeed Atlanta.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by vigilante.zen
I am not the first to speak of such quirky problems.... My tuner is one of the best on the east coast. He is more than knowledgeable.... So to say something along the line is foolish... All i was doing was offering some info on the GM MAF AND TRANSLATOR, and my experience with them on my car. I would recommend it to anyone. Leave it at that
What sort of quirky problems were you having? The only thing foolish is wasting your money on something not needed and then recommending that to others. There are plenty of high horsepower cars utilizing the stock ecu/maf without any issues, mine being one of them. If your tuner isn't able to work out the issues, maybe its time to look for a new tuner. ECUFlash is bringing the stock ECU closer to standalone capabilities and will make MAF translators a thing of the past with new features like map switching, speed density, load based boost control, etc. I'm glad your happy w/ your setup, I just don't want people to think it's a necessary step in the mod process especially when going w/ a turbo of this size.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Key word of that whole spill "closer". Not yet there... Boy u are awesome... Quit throwing crap out about my tuner he is more than experienced with the stock ECU. He knows the stock ECU inside and out and has cars pushing almost 670hp on stock ECU. So plz do us all a favor and stop posting stupid crap ,arguing and insulting people. Douchebag.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Creamo3
What sort of quirky problems were you having? The only thing foolish is wasting your money on something not needed and then recommending that to others. There are plenty of high horsepower cars utilizing the stock ecu/maf without any issues, mine being one of them. If your tuner isn't able to work out the issues, maybe its time to look for a new tuner. ECUFlash is bringing the stock ECU closer to standalone capabilities and will make MAF translators a thing of the past with new features like map switching, speed density, load based boost control, etc. I'm glad your happy w/ your setup, I just don't want people to think it's a necessary step in the mod process especially when going w/ a turbo of this size.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by vigilante.zen
Key word of that whole spill "closer". Not yet there... Boy u are awesome... Quit throwing crap out about my tuner he is more than experienced with the stock ECU. He knows the stock ECU inside and out and has cars pushing almost 670hp on stock ECU. So plz do us all a favor and stop posting stupid crap ,arguing and insulting people. Douchebag.
Looks like you have a lot to learn, no sense debating as you clearly can't keep your composure. Do yourself a favor and read up in the ECUFlash forum as you clearly have no idea what you're talking about; the level of development on the stock ECU v. MAF Translator is laughable. I know what I'm talking about as I do my own tuning; you trust what you're told because you really have no clue. You said it yourself "He knows the stock ECU inside and out and has cars pushing almost 670hp on stock ECU", so why are you pushing to use a GM MAF & Translator? What sort of power are you putting down w/ your setup? If you would like to debate further, feel free to PM.

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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Creamo3
Looks like you have a lot to learn, no sense debating as you clearly can't keep your composure. Do yourself a favor and read up in the ECUFlash forum as you clearly have no idea what you're talking about; the level of development on the stock ECU v. MAF Translator is laughable. I know what I'm talking about as I do my own tuning; you trust what you're told because you really have no clue. You said it yourself "He knows the stock ECU inside and out and has cars pushing almost 670hp on stock ECU", so why are you pushing to use a GM MAF & Translator? What sort of power are you putting down w/ your setup? If you would like to debate further, feel free to PM.

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see the problem is that people like you spend to much time on the forums reading **** and never testing thing out them self, so keep your comments to your self unless you have the data and all the testing to back everything up. We do not use the maf to tune we stated **** like this on here to many time, we use the stock ecu to tune out cars. Just because you can tune your car doesn't mean you know it all. Show me a car that runs 1600cc on a stock maf??? and i will show you a car that runs 1600cc on gm maf like stock and yes idle like stock too.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dsm25psi
see the problem is that people like you spend to much time on the forums reading **** and never testing thing out them self, so keep your comments to your self unless you have the data and all the testing to back everything up. We do not use the maf to tune we stated **** like this on here to many time, we use the stock ecu to tune out cars. Just because you can tune your car doesn't mean you know it all. Show me a car that runs 1600cc on a stock maf??? and i will show you a car that runs 1600cc on gm maf like stock and yes idle like stock too.
Wow, that hurt just to read. Please enlighten me and point me to your in depth testing comparing the Stock ECU/MAF to your GM MAF/Translator. In fact, do you even tune or do you pay someone to do it for you? In the context of this thread "FP Red Setups", when will you ever surpass the capabilities of the stock MAF/ECU setup? When will you need 1600cc injectors for a ~57lb/min turbo, even if you run E85? I have seen 1450cc injectors run both pump & E85 w/o issue on the stock ECU. The truth is, a MAF Translator is a piggyback for those who are unable to unlock the full potential of the stock ECU. Show me one fast car running a GM MAF/Translator and I guarantee I can show you a car running even faster on the Stock ECU. Game over, don't come back until you have some actual data or learn to formulate proper sentences.

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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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^ Not to jack the thread but do you know anyone that would tune a turbo 420A FWD Talon?
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