FP RED setups, recommendations, and advice
That's sort of the way I feel. I've just started tuning mine on pump and DLL is showing 450 already (also with 12 degrees of timing up top). I have an Aquamist kit and was planning to add a few more lbs. of boost, but maybe that isn't so wise on the stock bottom end.
well my question that iv been asking that i havent gotten an answer to yet is how are you guys running you oil line feed?, cuz on fp's web site it says to find a better oil line for more oil pressure and there are supposedly people out there blowing their turbos because of oil starvation???... so any help out there how are you guys running yours?
well my question that iv been asking that i havent gotten an answer to yet is how are you guys running you oil line feed?, cuz on fp's web site it says to find a better oil line for more oil pressure and there are supposedly people out there blowing their turbos because of oil starvation???... so any help out there how are you guys running yours?
No turbo is invincable, and the Reds are no different, "if you think your gonna overspeed and under oil a non ball bearing turbo youve got another thing coming" is basically what Fp told me. The guy I talked to out there said his Red has got 12k miles on it with zero issues. I have had no issues with mine either. We are both running the larger braided stainless line. Granted I probably have one of the stockest setups youll ever see a Red on ( according to my dyno tuner).
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No turbo is invincable, and the Reds are no different, "if you think your gonna overspeed and under oil a non ball bearing turbo youve got another thing coming" is basically what Fp told me. QUOTE]
By this i am understanding you/them to say that the line isnt really needed. is that what you meant?
No turbo is invincable, and the Reds are no different, "if you think your gonna overspeed and under oil a non ball bearing turbo youve got another thing coming" is basically what Fp told me. QUOTE]
By this i am understanding you/them to say that the line isnt really needed. is that what you meant?
I actually talked to FP on this and its because the stock oil line comes with a restrictor, in the line, to limit the amount of oil flow to the 'stock' turbo. Just get the braided stainless line (it comes in there race install kit) and no more oil restriction.
No turbo is invincable, and the Reds are no different, "if you think your gonna overspeed and under oil a non ball bearing turbo youve got another thing coming" is basically what Fp told me. The guy I talked to out there said his Red has got 12k miles on it with zero issues. I have had no issues with mine either. We are both running the larger braided stainless line. Granted I probably have one of the stockest setups youll ever see a Red on ( according to my dyno tuner).
No turbo is invincable, and the Reds are no different, "if you think your gonna overspeed and under oil a non ball bearing turbo youve got another thing coming" is basically what Fp told me. The guy I talked to out there said his Red has got 12k miles on it with zero issues. I have had no issues with mine either. We are both running the larger braided stainless line. Granted I probably have one of the stockest setups youll ever see a Red on ( according to my dyno tuner).
I actually talked to FP on this and its because the stock oil line comes with a restrictor, in the line, to limit the amount of oil flow to the 'stock' turbo. Just get the braided stainless line (it comes in there race install kit) and no more oil restriction.
No turbo is invincable, and the Reds are no different, "if you think your gonna overspeed and under oil a non ball bearing turbo youve got another thing coming" is basically what Fp told me. The guy I talked to out there said his Red has got 12k miles on it with zero issues. I have had no issues with mine either. We are both running the larger braided stainless line. Granted I probably have one of the stockest setups youll ever see a Red on ( according to my dyno tuner).
No turbo is invincable, and the Reds are no different, "if you think your gonna overspeed and under oil a non ball bearing turbo youve got another thing coming" is basically what Fp told me. The guy I talked to out there said his Red has got 12k miles on it with zero issues. I have had no issues with mine either. We are both running the larger braided stainless line. Granted I probably have one of the stockest setups youll ever see a Red on ( according to my dyno tuner).
I actually talked to FP on this and its because the stock oil line comes with a restrictor, in the line, to limit the amount of oil flow to the 'stock' turbo. Just get the braided stainless line (it comes in there race install kit) and no more oil restriction.
No turbo is invincable, and the Reds are no different, "if you think your gonna overspeed and under oil a non ball bearing turbo youve got another thing coming" is basically what Fp told me. The guy I talked to out there said his Red has got 12k miles on it with zero issues. I have had no issues with mine either. We are both running the larger braided stainless line. Granted I probably have one of the stockest setups youll ever see a Red on ( according to my dyno tuner).
No turbo is invincable, and the Reds are no different, "if you think your gonna overspeed and under oil a non ball bearing turbo youve got another thing coming" is basically what Fp told me. The guy I talked to out there said his Red has got 12k miles on it with zero issues. I have had no issues with mine either. We are both running the larger braided stainless line. Granted I probably have one of the stockest setups youll ever see a Red on ( according to my dyno tuner).
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Well I believe the light in which we spoke was in regards to failures of the Red in extreme situations (prolonged periods at extreme boost levels). ALSO I forgot to mention, this tech was very informative and could tell I was concerned about the longevity of the turbo. So his advice to me was a larger braided SS line along with a word of caution on OVER cautious tunes.
He related to me that in some road race situations people will tune or have tuned what they feel is a safe tune, ie running the car rich (which is understandable). While a rich tune may help stave off detonation and keep from leaning out but all that excess fuel is burning in the turbo. Which I guess make sense because in my turbo diesel truck when the EGTs get too high the computer starts leaning out the engine until EGTs drop below 1350 F.
Lastly the rumor mill may have blown these failures out of proportion both guys I talked to expressed that very few have come back due to failure. Especially with all types of unskilled home mechanics that bolt these on themselves. Like me. **** it took me about 12-15 hours total, because I had never really undertook a project that big myself. Even with a slow inexperienced person doing the install the thing has been flawless.
Seems like a lot of guys are kinda on the fence I hope this info helps
No turbo is invincable, and the Reds are no different, "if you think your gonna overspeed and under oil a non ball bearing turbo youve got another thing coming" is basically what Fp told me. QUOTE]
By this i am understanding you/them to say that the line isnt really needed. is that what you meant?
By this i am understanding you/them to say that the line isnt really needed. is that what you meant?
He related to me that in some road race situations people will tune or have tuned what they feel is a safe tune, ie running the car rich (which is understandable). While a rich tune may help stave off detonation and keep from leaning out but all that excess fuel is burning in the turbo. Which I guess make sense because in my turbo diesel truck when the EGTs get too high the computer starts leaning out the engine until EGTs drop below 1350 F.
Lastly the rumor mill may have blown these failures out of proportion both guys I talked to expressed that very few have come back due to failure. Especially with all types of unskilled home mechanics that bolt these on themselves. Like me. **** it took me about 12-15 hours total, because I had never really undertook a project that big myself. Even with a slow inexperienced person doing the install the thing has been flawless.
Seems like a lot of guys are kinda on the fence I hope this info helps
Oh and I never pre lubed the thing either (didnt find out about that trick until after the install), and its breakin consisted of like 12 back to back full throttle dyno runs untill the IC got so hot water sprayed onto the IC instantly became steam. There was little or no foreplay on my Reds break in.
Last edited by jroller; Mar 14, 2009 at 02:47 AM.
Jroller thanks alot again thats more information then i could of even asked for and deffiently helps. well my red is on its way and i already have my new oil line plus i read up on the prelube of the turbo befor the initial start-up so im feeling really good now so i hope i wont have any problems
Hmm
Regardless of what you do.... All I can say is that I can recommend the GM MAF and the translator as one of the most important upgrades. That helped so much for me with drivability. There were just a ton of little quirky problems... without... this beautiful piece of equipment! Havent made it back to the dyno yet. It will be soon though! I also have the FP Red with 1200's.
