I just read the first post. I guess we are to assume "bolt ons" means that you have the upper ic pipe as well. So which upper and lower IC pipes are you running? I have herd from several tuners that it is a good idea to stick with parts from the same company, rather then having a whole assortment of parts from different vendors.

 

i have the injen IC + intake kit im all set with those pipes just the intercooler is the issue

 

If you have any questions regarding our product give me a call.

We can do a flat black coat if you like. It's pretty new, and we haven't started selling it, but it looks really good and is really durable. You will notice some of the Road Race products are flat black, it's the same powdercoat we used for there products.

That is common on cars that are not designed for a front mount intercooler, that is why we designed our core to have a more free flowing external fin pack. No matter the application our cooler will provide more air to the radiator.

It really depends, if the piping terminates in the stock piping location it will work with our intercooler no problem.

If you have any questions regarding fitment, let me know. I can tell you if the setup will work with your current mods.

Thanks!

Michael

 

That's not really a problem, if your currently using the stock intercooler. The pipes terminate in the same location as the stock setup, which will work with our intercooler. I would strongly recommend upgraded the injen licp to our Lp2, the Lp2 has seen gains of over 10whp compared to the injen style lower intercooler pipes. The reason we get such a big gain is because our piping is 2.5" all the way to the turbo outlet where the injen pipe necks down to 2.0"

Thanks,

Michael

 

yeah it's definitely something to think about so would you recommend the garrett core or your core for my setup

 

Here, here on this one. Take anything that fat man says with a ****e ton of skepticism.
The moment when I got a personal street tune from Big Al the car didn't feel any faster (of course he's telling me it does) - however I took it as the butt meter just doesn't tell enough, but it felt a little slower to me (this was when no one had ECUflash). In the end I was paying a guy that was supposed to know what he was doing.

Well when I was able to log and download my own maps for my Evo (no changes were made on the car since his tune) the smallest amount of knock I saw was 6-7counts. That was the F^&king smallest - it shot up from there when boost kicked in.
Does knock mean HP? - not in my book or anyone else's that knows a thing about tunning.

Never the less I wasted my money on a hack - when I tuned it (and I am by no means a tuner, but know the basics enough) she felt faster, didn't have any hesitation and my knock count was 0 throughout with an occasional 1 maybe 2 counts of knock through the rpm range.

Maybe he's changed his horrible tunning ways since then - but I would heed anyone with exactly what gsrboi80 said and others -

Sorry for the - just make sure you do the research and spend the time to educate yourself. Don't allow fools to blow up your engine - hell most of you can do that on your own without paying someone to do it for you

Joey

 

To play fair - Michael (ETS) can you answer Wicked's question on the markings that are on every garrett?

Now in the vid I saw by Big Al it looked like someone used an etching tool to put the markings on the IC (which means anyone could do that).

Do all garretts come with that for real? Seems to me the company would make a plate for it vs etching - but I never knew that about garrett if that's true about the markings. Learned something today if it is

 

isn't it true to just stay at a 3inch if you get 4 inch it will take more time "for boost to fill up".............

 

garretts come with the etching

 

Rocking a 4" ETS here on my '03 VIII. Prepare to either heavily modify the front crash beam or remove it entirely to roll the 4". I believe the 3" fits just fine w/ the crash bar w/ minor clearancing

 

The markings on every Garrett core I've ever owned are scribed or put on with a electronic etching pen on the top surface of the core (looking at the orientation when installed). The Garrett core ID number is etched in the top. I can post a pic of one if you like.

ETS leaves those Garrett numbers on their cores. I seem to recall that Buschur grinds them off, but I'd leave that to someone with a Buschur Race core to confirm.

The 4" ETS core fits with very minor grinding on the crash bar. The 4" ETS intercooler that uses the Garrett 3.8" core fits even better.

 

Thanks for bringing it up

To answer your question, yes ALL garrett cores come like that and it does look like someone just carved it in but all of the garrett cores have that but the one in the vid didn't.

 

The Buschur Race cores that I have seen all have the markings on them.

 

Hard to put and end to some things. I already calculated the internal cubic feet of 20 feet of 2.5" tube for one post to illustrate how a turbo would instantly fill the space producing no noticeable lag due to even an egregious amount of intercooler piping (It's less than 1 cubic foot btw). Now to put the math down on a "Large core/time to fill" comment. I'm not hating btw, I just don't like how myths get started.

Example - A huge frontal are core 24x14x3 or 4"

24x14x3 = 1008 inches cubed

24x14x4 = 1344 inches cubed

for a difference of 336

1 cubic foot of air is 1728 inches cubed

The difference is a whopping .19444 cubic feet which would fill in a millisecond and you would never know the difference. This is assuming also that the core is an empty box which it isn't, so the number in reality is even smaller probably in the .06 CF range if you subtract the turbulators and external channels.

Barring the use of a walnut sized turbo and a intercooler core the size of your hood, bigger is always better. Proper sizing should be considered, but more for will it handle what I throw at it, rather than does it handle more than I need.

/brox

 

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