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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Unhappy Sloppy shifter?

I have an 03 Evo 8 and the shifter is really slopy when in gear and sometimes I have problems getting into second, the sloppyness occured after the clutch was done, is there and easy fix for these problems?
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 05:21 AM
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new stiff bushings everywhere maybe? Shifter base and underhood
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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clutch line , clutch adjustment , maybe
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 08:01 AM
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start with a clutch pedal adjustment, heres how
click here

if that doesnt work then you need to look under your hood above the transmission and make sure the hardline section of your clutch cables are actually secured (there is a bracket on the hardline that is supposed to be screwed into the top of the transmission)

heres a pic of what im talking about:


if that doesnt work than you can turn to the aftermarket:

shifter base bushings:
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shifter base bushing install guide:
click here

underhood shifter bushings (5 speed)
click here

underhood bushing install guide:
click here

SS braided lower clutch line:
click here

SS braided upper clutch line:
click here

SS braided clutch line install, heres how
click here

if your going to swap your clutch lines, you will need to bleed them, heres how:
edit: the link i posted previously was obsolete. this is the most relevant data i have found in regards to bleeding the clutch line:

Originally Posted by evomoto.com
Installing a braided clutch line or want to remove your clutch restrictor, but aren't sure how to bleed the clutch line when you are done? Have you tried bleeding it and don't seem to be making any progress? Well, here you go! Bleeding the clutch line is not a difficult procedure, however, we even had some issues initially getting the one in the Evo 8 bled properly. Unlike most cars where you can simply begin the bleeding process and just add fluid to the brake fluid reservoir as needed during the process, the Evo 8 brake fluid reservoir must be "over filled" to even get started. Failure to do so can have you pumping nothing but air indefinitely.
if you want to take it a step further:

polyurethane transmission mount:
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i could not find an install guide for the transmission mount. however, here is an install guide for the front motor mount. the procedure is similar.
click here

install tip: to avoid the necessity of a press in order to remove the stock rubber insert from the mount, simply take a rather large drill bit and drill through the rubber several times to make it more plyable (otherwise your can just push all you like, that insert isnt going anywhere). then use WD-40 and elbow grease/flat head screw drivers to dislodge the rubber insert from the mount (note: this is applicable to dislodging rubber engine mount inserts as well).



hope this helps

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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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That fixed part but when I am in gear I can move the shifter about an inch to inch and a half side to side, is this a major problem?
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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That fixed part but when I am in gear I can move the shifter about an inch to inch and a half side to side, is this a major problem?
is this in any gear? you may have a damaged an internal component durring a hard pull. have you ever launched this car? if so the possibility of a damaged component increases exponentially.

before we jump to any conclusions, this may be the result of improper installation and adjustment. i would seek out a professional diagnosis before turning to the aftermarket.

everyone who has ever done some reading, or talked to a professional knows better than to launch these cars. the results can be catostrophic. its not impossible to launch this car. just illadvised.

look at this quote i found from Top Gear when they tested the evo:
this just goes to show you that even mitsubishi knew that the professionals would have trouble getting the evo to launch right.
Originally Posted by Top Gear
Here is a 405bhp saloon that will breach 100mph in a shade over nine seconds, which is when most saloons make 60mph. So brakes become a crucial factor, and the Evo's are sensationally capable, six-calliper 343mm discs. You can see them, painted red, through the wheel spokes. The heart of the beast, and the reason that Mitsubishi handed us a two-page explanation of how to launch the car in anger. Basically, it'll break if you get it wrong.
bushwacker transmission treatment:
click here

this will not correct user error, but it will repair any damage that you may have caused do to abuse

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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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I broke my 5 speed and sent it to shep, before I had some slop in the transmission I tried metal under hood shifter bushings and that helped. Once I received my shep transmission I also installed metal shifter base bushings and that significantly helped. My shifter is now nice and tight. I call it perfect.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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nevEr launched above 3k and it's only been since the clutch was changed to a stage 1 clutch, I am currently going to try all adjustments.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Get a front motor mount, underhood shifter bushings, shifter base bushings, and a short-shifter if you're really feeling saucy. All of these works work together to help make the shifter nice and precise, I did everything possible to make my Evo shifter feel just as good as the one on my S2000 and I'm very happy with it now. You can also complete the package with driveshaft and rear differential bushings. Check post # 2 in the link below for all the info you'll need on these parts:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-100-time.html
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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Ordered bushing, tried a clutch adjustment like the writeup said and now my car won't start, bad luck huh?
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