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Old May 22, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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i asked acree if he's car was running good yesterday, he said yea. but who knows.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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other then kevinD owing acree a new shortblock? no.

i hope you do the right thing Kevin and give acree his money back. car didnt even last a month.
I didn't see this until just now or I would have responded earlier. This comment is completely unnecessary and hostile. Thank you for adding to the thread Tom.

On the way home yesterday, the car developed some pretty nasty rod knock. I pulled the filter and sure enough it looks like glitter.

KevinD is taking care of everything. The car will be back up shortly, but with much less power. Kevin has been 100% professional every step of the way and is making everything right.

I don't want to see anymore posts like above in my thread or I'll just have a moderator close it.

-Acree
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Old May 22, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Acree
I didn't see this until just now or I would have responded earlier. This comment is completely unnecessary and hostile. Thank you for adding to the thread Tom.

On the way home yesterday, the car developed some pretty nasty rod knock. I pulled the filter and sure enough it looks like glitter.

KevinD is taking care of everything. The car will be back up shortly, but with much less power. Kevin has been 100% professional every step of the way and is making everything right.

I don't want to see anymore posts like above in my thread or I'll just have a moderator close it.

-Acree
ha wow ok. my bad.. remind me not to attempt to stick up for you anymore.. that was a bit of a screwy reply

i only responded with that to make sure you get rebuilt as im sure you dont like spending thousands of dollars for an engine to last 1 month then go.. i sure wouldn't.

when we spoke on google talk, you sounded like you were defenseless and was just going to fold and get taken.. that is why i responded with that comment. remember you messaged me.. and said "you wont believe what just happened" and then followed up with "well you probably will" .. i didnt pm you at all until you said that to me, and when i kept asking are they gonna fix it? you kept saying its going back to stock 100%.. and i honestly thought you were not gonna do anything about it.. and when i seen your thread bumped i responded to it. if you would have just pm'ed me and said they are fixing it.. then i wouldnt of said anything.. but i was under the impression you were gonna just let it slide like you let the first incident.. which was really bad, because it happened 2x in a row.. (not evolution dynamics related)

Funny thing is, my customer bumped the thread to ask how the SD tune was going because hes thinking about doing it to his own car.. so he was asking for feedback.

but yes.. i wont respond in this thread anymore.. its all yours. its good they are fixing it.. I wasn't trying to be hostile..

On behalf of kevinD's defense.. it could of been caused by all the torque you had, and an improperly baffled oil pan could have starved the pickup tube and let the bearings run dry long enough to spin a bearing..

In no way was i trying to flame or be hostile.. but when stuff happens like this it should be known.. if anything it shows the place is legit and willing to fix their mistakes at no extra cost to the customer.. which is rare these days i might add.

Take care.

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Old May 22, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Good to hear! I'm glad you're being taken care of! I hope it all works out.

-Jalal
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Old May 22, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
ha wow ok. my bad.. remind me not to attempt to stick up for you anymore.. that was a bit of a screwy reply

i only responded with that to make sure you get rebuilt as im sure you dont like spending thousands of dollars for an engine to last 1 month then go.. i sure wouldn't. not to mention the car falling apart in another situation with the same people wrenching on it while you were on the phone with me.. (ball joint separating from the hub assembly due to an improper install with notch marks)

when we spoke on google talk, you sounded like you were defenseless and was just going to fold and get screwed.. that is why i responded with that comment. remember you messaged me.. and said "you wont believe what just happened" and then followed up with "well you probably will" .. i didnt pm you at all, you pm'ed me.. and i honestly thought you were not gonna do anything about it.. and when i seen your thread bumped i responded to it.

but yes.. i wont respond in this thread anymore.. its all yours. its good they are fixing it.. I wasn't trying to be hostile..

Take care.


Thats cause you always come off as a d bag on here in situations involving other vendors.

You don't even know the details half the time or how it will be handled. You should seriously keep your trap shut more often.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by project_skyline


Thats cause you always come off as a d bag on here in situations involving other vendors.

You don't even know the details half the time or how it will be handled. You should seriously keep your trap shut more often.
i was tuning his car as kevin was tuning his car.. the SAME time (at one point in time).. i know everything about this car. thanks for your response though.. it sure did nothing in regards to this situation.

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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
ha wow ok. my bad.. remind me not to attempt to stick up for you anymore.. that was a bit of a screwy reply

i only responded with that to make sure you get rebuilt as im sure you dont like spending thousands of dollars for an engine to last 1 month then go.. i sure wouldn't. not to mention the car falling apart in another situation with the same people wrenching on it while you were on the phone with me.. (ball joint separating from the hub assembly due to an improper install with notch marks)

when we spoke on google talk, you sounded like you were defenseless and was just going to fold and get screwed.. that is why i responded with that comment. remember you messaged me.. and said "you wont believe what just happened" and then followed up with "well you probably will" .. i didnt pm you at all, you pm'ed me.. and i honestly thought you were not gonna do anything about it.. and when i seen your thread bumped i responded to it.

Funny thing is, my customer bumped the thread to ask how the SD tune was going because hes thinking about doing it to his own car.. so he was asking for feedback.

but yes.. i wont respond in this thread anymore.. its all yours. its good they are fixing it.. I wasn't trying to be hostile..

Take care.

have to agree, you come off as a e-know-it-all. when clearly you don't know.

i'm taking care of acree. his rebuilt wont cost him anything. it is the right thing to do when people have problems within a reasonable time of a build (~3000 miles). obviously performance shops cant garantee everyones engine will never have problems. otherwise everyone would have 1000whp cars with no fear of it breaking. but if you had any experience in this "sport" at all, you would know full well making high HP cars can be, and is a gamble. i have seen cars built/tuned/assembled from every big vendor you can think of. and EVERY SINGLE ONE has engines that fail. hell, the head acree got came from one of the biggest vendors here, improperly assembled.


and for the record, i didn't install acrees ball joints. and i never touched them at any point, except after it fell apart and he had us take over his build. so if you would be so kind to correct your false statements.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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You were never tuning my car as the same time... I ran questions by you and we did some pulls and logs. Ultimately, I decided to let Kevin handle it since it was his build and I decided to trust him implicitly. I still do. The only time I ever paid you for any tune, was back in November after I built the car myself and Kevin hadn't even touched it.

The "well you probably will" comment was because we had spoken about the effect of 590 ftlbs of torque on bearings. It's amazing what conclusions you come to out of thin air. My entire attitude was I am done with modding my car and shooting for high numbers. I went on Gtalk to thank you for answering multiple questions for me. Never once did I say "oh man I'm so boned" or anything of that nature. I also didn't say a damn word about needing your comments or you to stand up for me. If I felt the situation wasn't going EXACTLY like it should, I would handle it.

-Acree
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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinD
have to agree, you come off as a e-know-it-all. when clearly you don't know.

i'm taking care of acree. his rebuilt wont cost him anything. it is the right thing to do when people have problems within a reasonable time of a build (~3000 miles). obviously performance shops cant garantee everyones engine will never have problems. otherwise everyone would have 1000whp cars with no fear of it breaking. but if you had any experience in this "sport" at all, you would know full well making high HP cars can be, and is a gamble. i have seen cars built/tuned/assembled from every big vendor you can think of. and EVERY SINGLE ONE has engines that fail. hell, the head acree got came from one of the biggest vendors here, improperly assembled.


and for the record, i didn't install acrees ball joints. and i never touched them at any point, except after it fell apart and he had us take over his build. so if you would be so kind to correct your false statements.
Done i edited it out to the best of my ability. I know you were helping him at his home at one point in time, i know acree didnt do that labor so whoever did, didnt do it right.

as far as you taking care of the full cost and labor etc.. not to many shops do that these days so i salute you for that..

and you're right. the highest HP car i have dealt with personally is my own.. and yes things break.. it happens with high HP and TQ. its normal. i completely understand it..

if you read my edited post i said it could have been caused by the baffling system in the oem oil pan since you gave his car so much torque.

im not pointing fingers at anybody.. sorry if the ball joint thing had nothing to do with you.. i apologize..
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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KevinD
and for the record, i didn't install acrees ball joints. and i never touched them at any point, except after it fell apart and he had us take over his build. so if you would be so kind to correct your false statements.
THIS

I would LOVE for you to find a single post, thread, email, chatlog, etc where I said it was Kevin or anyone at his shop that caused my ball joint issue. I've been straight forward about that from day one. My balljoint issue was strictly due to my inexperience with this car and suspension. Hell, Richard and Josh from EvoDynamics fixed the ball joint in the middle of the street when it fell out again while we trying to load it on the trailer from my house. THAT is what kind of guys work at EvoD. They do things no other shop in the world would do for their customers. Not because they have to, but because they choose to. They are simply an amazing group of stand up guys.

-Acree

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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Acree
THIS

I would LOVE for you to find a single post, thread, email, chatlog, etc where I said it was Kevin or anyone at his shop that caused my ball joint issue. I've been straight forward about that from day one. I don't get where you come off so high and mighty.

-Acree
who did the ball joint then? you were on your cell phone with me when your car collapsed as you attempted to enter a gas station.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PlanoEvo
I'm noticing a trend in local high hp builds failing

its a lot more common then you would be lead to believe reading stuff on evom (and maybe take it as a precaution on your own build... if your budget is tight, you shouldn't be shooting for 600+whp).

when someone posts huge HP numbers, says they are going to go run x.xxx time at the drag strip then disappears entirely, its usually because they had a failure.

another great excuse is they have a big hp cars, then they want to "take it down to change the setup". thats code for, something broke.
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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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where is the popcorn icon when you need it, acree what is broke on the car now? I just finished up my build so I want to make sure i check everything I can.
If I had it to do all over again I would have stuck with my fp red on the stock 2.0 set up car ran great and probally would have lasted me awhile.

Now im way up in the power and every noise I hear I think somthing is going to break
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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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who did the ball joint then? you were on your cell phone with me when your car collapsed as you attempted to enter a gas station.
It was 100% me sir. I added to my post.


Originally Posted by localtoys73
where is the popcorn icon when you need it, acree what is broke on the car now? I just finished up my build so I want to make sure i check everything I can.
I won't know exactly what is wrong for a while, probably a spun bearing and rod knock.

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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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Thats cause you always come off as a d bag on here in situations involving other vendors.

You don't even know the details half the time or how it will be handled. You should seriously keep your trap shut more often.
This I agree with. Yes.
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