2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4 motors / strokers
great info! Has anyone ever done anything like a gsc (or other) 94mm crank in a 4g64 block and add that extra 6mm of room to the rod. Looks like they use a 156mm in the 63 block so that would give you a 162mm rod with a 94mm stroke. assume .020 over and you got a 2.285l with a 1.72 r/s.
k now i just need a few stacks to suddenly appear in my bank account.
Honestly though, is the extra rpm (money) gonna do any good for anything other than a straight line over a budget 2.4? Unless your in that little extra head room for a majority of the time, essentially on drag/highway pulls, your not utilizing the benefits of such a motor anyway. A standard 2.4 has its benefits all through the rpm range we drive the most on the street or road course after all.
Just thinking out loud a little
k now i just need a few stacks to suddenly appear in my bank account.
Honestly though, is the extra rpm (money) gonna do any good for anything other than a straight line over a budget 2.4? Unless your in that little extra head room for a majority of the time, essentially on drag/highway pulls, your not utilizing the benefits of such a motor anyway. A standard 2.4 has its benefits all through the rpm range we drive the most on the street or road course after all.
Just thinking out loud a little
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Hi Guys,
im helping a friend to search for some info's on the 4G64 crankshaft and we wonder which model of the 4G64 cars suitable and plug and play onto our 4G63T?
Is there any different for the front and rear wheel 4G64 car model?
We found 1 used 4G64 crank but the shop said it is a front wheel model crankshaft...
Pls advise...
Thanks
im helping a friend to search for some info's on the 4G64 crankshaft and we wonder which model of the 4G64 cars suitable and plug and play onto our 4G63T?
Is there any different for the front and rear wheel 4G64 car model?
We found 1 used 4G64 crank but the shop said it is a front wheel model crankshaft...
Pls advise...
Thanks
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so i think i'll be only able to get an outlander halfcut as it is very very rare to get an galant and eclipse over here...
Can i use a Mit Delica lorry crank?
So, its mean it doesnt matter whether it is a front wheel or rear wheel 4G64 engine right?
To make myself right about the correction combination of parts while putting in a 4G64 crank is :
1) 150mm OEM rods length
2) 85.5 Stroker Pistons
3) Main & Rods bearings? Do i need over size bearings? Or can i use as the oem rods and main bearings size?
Other than that what should i need to modify in order to build this 4G64 crank into my 4G63T engine?
Can kindly list it :
Thanks
Last edited by jameswwt; Apr 3, 2011 at 06:09 AM.
The crank might be the same in the Delica if its also a 2.4 gas motor with the 7 bolt flywheel. I dont have JDM CAPS or ASA at the moment so I cant doublecheck. RWD/FWD/AWD doesnt matter with the Mitsu as was pointed out, just a late model 3 piece thrust washer (center main bearing).
86.5mm is stock bore. Its hard to get a block that you can use the drop in pistons the first time, I suggest going to 87mm unless you can have a few checked prior to purchase. Or order the pistons slightly oversized (like 86.6mm) and then have it honed to fit which is what I did on my current motor. The next one will just be an 87mm though.
Stock bearing sizes an stock rod length work okay, 156mm rods if you want a long rod also require the "stroker" piston with raised compression height. They will be on the shelf before too long according to Wiseco and I have heard Manley has them but I havent seen them myself.
Aaron
86.5mm is stock bore. Its hard to get a block that you can use the drop in pistons the first time, I suggest going to 87mm unless you can have a few checked prior to purchase. Or order the pistons slightly oversized (like 86.6mm) and then have it honed to fit which is what I did on my current motor. The next one will just be an 87mm though.
Stock bearing sizes an stock rod length work okay, 156mm rods if you want a long rod also require the "stroker" piston with raised compression height. They will be on the shelf before too long according to Wiseco and I have heard Manley has them but I havent seen them myself.
Aaron
Thanks Aaron,
so i think i'll be only able to get an outlander halfcut as it is very very rare to get an galant and eclipse over here...
Can i use a Mit Delica lorry crank?
So, its mean it doesnt matter whether it is a front wheel or rear wheel 4G64 engine right?
To make myself right about the correction combination of parts while putting in a 4G64 crank is :
1) 150mm OEM rods length
2) 85.5 Stroker Pistons
3) Main & Rods bearings? Do i need over size bearings? Or can i use as the oem rods and main bearings size?
Other than that what should i need to modify in order to build this 4G64 crank into my 4G63T engine?
Can kindly list it :
Thanks
so i think i'll be only able to get an outlander halfcut as it is very very rare to get an galant and eclipse over here...
Can i use a Mit Delica lorry crank?
So, its mean it doesnt matter whether it is a front wheel or rear wheel 4G64 engine right?
To make myself right about the correction combination of parts while putting in a 4G64 crank is :
1) 150mm OEM rods length
2) 85.5 Stroker Pistons
3) Main & Rods bearings? Do i need over size bearings? Or can i use as the oem rods and main bearings size?
Other than that what should i need to modify in order to build this 4G64 crank into my 4G63T engine?
Can kindly list it :
Thanks
Mike
2.4L Questions:
1. What cam recommendations do people have for the 2.4L?
Are they really more dependent on larger cams?
(I have cosworth M2 w/o springs etc. Anyone have experience with this cam on a 2.4? If I'm revving beyond 7,800, i guess I'll need springs and retainers etc.)
2. Builder Recommendations
From what I've read, it's down to English Racing, Buschur or Map. Would anyone like to comment on why I should choose one over another? All three are great people and they know what they're doing so please be specific here.
I'm running an FPblack on 93 pump (no meth) daily driven, not looking to make huge hp. ~550whp would be more than enough. I'm sure i'll have more questions as i go.
1. What cam recommendations do people have for the 2.4L?
Are they really more dependent on larger cams?
(I have cosworth M2 w/o springs etc. Anyone have experience with this cam on a 2.4? If I'm revving beyond 7,800, i guess I'll need springs and retainers etc.)
2. Builder Recommendations
From what I've read, it's down to English Racing, Buschur or Map. Would anyone like to comment on why I should choose one over another? All three are great people and they know what they're doing so please be specific here.
I'm running an FPblack on 93 pump (no meth) daily driven, not looking to make huge hp. ~550whp would be more than enough. I'm sure i'll have more questions as i go.
2.4L Questions:
1. What cam recommendations do people have for the 2.4L?
Are they really more dependent on larger cams?
(I have cosworth M2 w/o springs etc. Anyone have experience with this cam on a 2.4? If I'm revving beyond 7,800, i guess I'll need springs and retainers etc.)
2. Builder Recommendations
From what I've read, it's down to English Racing, Buschur or Map. Would anyone like to comment on why I should choose one over another? All three are great people and they know what they're doing so please be specific here.
I'm running an FPblack on 93 pump (no meth) daily driven, not looking to make huge hp. ~550whp would be more than enough. I'm sure i'll have more questions as i go.
1. What cam recommendations do people have for the 2.4L?
Are they really more dependent on larger cams?
(I have cosworth M2 w/o springs etc. Anyone have experience with this cam on a 2.4? If I'm revving beyond 7,800, i guess I'll need springs and retainers etc.)
2. Builder Recommendations
From what I've read, it's down to English Racing, Buschur or Map. Would anyone like to comment on why I should choose one over another? All three are great people and they know what they're doing so please be specific here.
I'm running an FPblack on 93 pump (no meth) daily driven, not looking to make huge hp. ~550whp would be more than enough. I'm sure i'll have more questions as i go.
In regards to cams the additional displacement of the 2.4L certainly yearns for a more aggressive camshaft, unfortunately I don't have experience with the M2's. We're big fans of GSC and depending on your goals an S2 or S3 would be a great option, I believe the guys at ER also have a custom grind specifically for the larger displacement engines.