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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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Ummm ... don't pick. 100ms is actually 1 tenth of a second.
If you're gonna bust somebody, check the math ...

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Dammit.. you cought me before I could fix my post (now edited). I guess Al/Dynoflash is 2.7 seconds off, not 1.8 seconds.

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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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My God, Shiv got owned too! THJATS IT! Mikes dad is tuning my car from now on!
I WISH I could tune

Sorry, I couldn't resist. I breath binary and hex numbering systems for a living. I design computers for a living ( IBM in Poughkeepsie, NY ).
I was one (of a cast of thousands) that designed Deep Blue, the computer that beat Kasperov...

Actually I helped with the base machines. The real goodies were done by my brethren downstate....

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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by shiv@vishnu


Dammit.. you cought me before I could fix my post (now edited). I guess Al/Dynoflash is 2.7 seconds off, not 1.8 seconds.

Cheers,
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Thank God ( or KK ) for that editing feature
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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Thank God ( or KK ) for that editing feature
no kidding... phew...
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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I'd like to make a comment:

Imagine if one could put together Shiv's **** retentive talents (no disrespect intended!) and Al's hack and slash way of doing things (again, no disrespect intended). If instead of constant bickering these two gentlemen would just share their expertise, the EVO tuning world would benefit greatly as better, safer improvements would reach us - the customers - that much quicker and cheaper.

Okay, flame-retardant underware on....
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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I'd like to make a comment:

Imagine if one could put together Shiv's **** retentive talents (no disrespect intended!) and Al's hack and slash way of doing things (again, no disrespect intended). If instead of constant bickering these two gentlemen would just share their expertise, the EVO tuning world would benefit greatly as better, safer improvements would reach us - the customers - that much quicker and cheaper.

Okay, flame-retardant underware on....
What can Al bring to the table? I mean just think about this. What can he teach Vishnu or Shiv.

Eric
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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Ummm ... don't pick. 100ms is actually 1 tenth of a second.
If you're gonna bust somebody, check the math ...

Mike's dad
The exact number is irrelevant as we are talking about a very short period of time - - which is then changed to a very long period of time something like 10 minutes

The effect is to reduce the boost taper

We are changing the hexidecimal code 00 28 to FE FE which is a sizeable gain and which greatly inhances the top end boost over stock
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:15 PM
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Both Al and Shiv LOVE to say NEVER. Then they BOTH take another breath and jump on the bandwagon. Some call it hypocrisy, some call it a change of mind - take you pick, - but they both end up going down the same path.

Al seems to be always leading the pack, though. Shiv always takes his time, for all the right reasons (hence my "**** retentive" monicker), and then leapfrogs Al.

If you can combine that intuitive Al thing - I really do not know what to call it - with Shiv's way of getting things done, we'd all be ahead of the curve. Yesterday it was piggibacks, today it is reflash, tomorrow - who knows, but I can bet Al will do it first! And Shiv will best him soon thereafter. All the while the pundits on the board will continue sitting on the sidelines trading insults...
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by Eric Lyublinsky


What can Al bring to the table? I mean just think about this. What can he teach Vishnu or Shiv.

Eric
What I bring to the table is a greta product at a great price. Concentration on ONE kind of car and one product. And over 230 fully satisfied clients.

Finally - I bring to the table some serious powerful dyno sheets to back up my claims and some very fast evos out there running about

Not to mention my own WRX and EVO 1/4 track records and race victories

Vishnu talks a mean game - but they really have nothing tangible to back up the rethoric and insults
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by DynoFlash
The exact number is irrelevant as we are talking about a very short period of time - - which is then changed to a very long period of time something like 10 minutes

The effect is to reduce the boost taper

We are changing the hexidecimal code 00 28 to FE FE which is a sizeable gain and which greatly inhances the top end boost over stock
Taking Shivs number of 2.5ms as a timing unit, and multiplying by 0xFEFE ( 65278 decimal )
we come up with 2.71 mins. I am a geek...
Not 10, but if anyone here is going to be WOT for over 2 1/2 mins, tell me where.
I want to watch you run ...( and that freaky Nevada race don't count )

Mike's dad
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by vr430
Both Al and Shiv LOVE to say NEVER. Then they BOTH take another breath and jump on the bandwagon. Some call it hypocrisy, some call it a change of mind - take you pick, - but they both end up going down the same path.

Al seems to be always leading the pack, though. Shiv always takes his time, for all the right reasons (hence my "**** retentive" monicker), and then leapfrogs Al.

If you can combine that intuitive Al thing - I really do not know what to call it - with Shiv's way of getting things done, we'd all be ahead of the curve. Yesterday it was piggibacks, today it is reflash, tomorrow - who knows, but I can bet Al will do it first! And Shiv will best him soon thereafter. All the while the pundits on the board will continue sitting on the sidelines trading insults...
Good points

By the time Vishnu figures out how to get his Evo to crack 400 whp - - my daily driver Evo will be putting down 500 whp without nos and running 10's

I am just happy that I have been offering the reflashes for a fair price and with the money back guarantee so that all the Vishnu cheerleaders who will buy his reflash will get it for a less expensive price and also get the money back promise which i pionerred

One of these days after he figures out how to make the power safely without playing with the knock sesnor - - its going to be a decent product - although he needs to consider a price reduction in light of my $199.99 shipped x-mass sale

Bottom line is that reflahes are great - and they work even greater after you add a piggy back like the $300.00 emanage or other piggy back to use to fine tune the system

I am pleased that Vishnu has finally seen the light and realizes that the reflash is the best tuning method available for evos
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by vr430
Both Al and Shiv LOVE to say NEVER. Then they BOTH take another breath and jump on the bandwagon. Some call it hypocrisy, some call it a change of mind - take you pick, - but they both end up going down the same path.

Al seems to be always leading the pack, though. Shiv always takes his time, for all the right reasons (hence my "**** retentive" monicker), and then leapfrogs Al.

If you can combine that intuitive Al thing - I really do not know what to call it - with Shiv's way of getting things done, we'd all be ahead of the curve. Yesterday it was piggibacks, today it is reflash, tomorrow - who knows, but I can bet Al will do it first! And Shiv will best him soon thereafter. All the while the pundits on the board will continue sitting on the sidelines trading insults...
Oh so you would rather jump on a un-developed and un-tested product.

Before Al even starting reflashing Shiv posted his findings with reflashes and why he was not ready to release his. So I rather have a **** technical advanced person offer me EM solotions instead of a Lawyer that has more money then brains to throw on every part he can get a hold of and run 1/4 times to prove that yes money does buy you a fast car.

Also to to make it very clear his so called record was not run on Dynoflash.

Eric
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by mikesevo8


Taking Shivs number of 2.5ms as a timing unit, and multiplying by 0xFEFE ( 65278 decimal )
we come up with 2.71 mins. I am a geek...
Not 10, but if anyone here is going to be WOT for over 2 1/2 mins, tell me where.
I want to watch you run ...( and that freaky Nevada race don't count )

Mike's dad
I have no method to testing the actual length of time the FE FE calcualtes to - - I was told 10 mins by the company that makes the unit; however it is a real long time and it is way longer than anyone in a rational state of mind would hold down the gas pedal

FE FE is a very good thing indeed and it works wonders

They told me NOT to try FF FF - they had some trouble with that - so I never tested that out since FE FE is plenty
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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Oh so you would rather jump on a un-developed and un-tested product.

Before Al even starting reflashing Shiv posted his findings with reflashes and why he was not ready to release his. So I rather have a **** technical advanced person offer me EM solotions instead of a Lawyer that has more money then brains to throw on every part he can get a hold of and run 1/4 times to prove that yes money does buy you a fast car.

Also to to make it very clear his so called record was not run on Dynoflash.

Eric
Actually - I was told by Tech Tom the delay was for other reasons - which are hearsay - but I guess he didnt get the product that quickly after all !

As far as his analness - - he can't be that **** if he is messing with knock corection

I find it amusing that you and the fellow Vishnu cheerleaders insult my EDUCATION as reason WHY I can't be qualified to tune a car

Is the fact that I have a J. D. degree and graduated in the top of my class evidence that somehow I am less qualified to work with EFI systems and reflash Evos

Judging from my very satsfied client base I would say that my education has not been a hinderance

Finally Vishnu's dyno sheets released thus far are weak in the trq department

ALSO - to make it clear I ran a 11.627 with the dyno flash and a 11.505 and a 11.624 wih the Autronic which has been nothing but problems for me and is comming off the car and being sold at a loss

At least I have some fast time slips under my belt and not just hot air and BS sales talk

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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by Eric Lyublinsky


What can Al bring to the table?
Eric
The same thing that shops like AMS,Buschur,Turbotrix's,Extreme and all the other DSM based shops. They simply SHUT the **** up and go racing. Regardless of your racing preference. These guys are taking the same car and progressively making them better faster and quicker.

At the lead of the pack is David Buschur with his 11.6 on a stock turbo. That's just simply amazing. To those that think building a drag car is infantile and beneath their abilities. Go try to duplicate what David and Al have done. Until then you simply have ZERO to say,and your opinions on tuning are MOOT!!!

Going 11.6 on a stock turbo is not easy. trapping 12XMPH is not easy either. If you think its so simple GO DO IT.

Learning to drive a line around a race track, learning entry points apex entry angles and corner exit points is much easier then making HP. Road racing is more driving and car setup then HP. Go make 1000HP like David has done then you may have some merrit to engauge in a conversatin in regard to the 4g63 engine. again if its so easy then go do it.

Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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