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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 03:53 PM
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This is the result of our EVO X RBX 7163 TWIN SCROLL versus (same car) BBX evaluation-

Solid is 7163 , dashed bbx- same car- same dyno, same mods-



please note- this car was always a bit strong on our dyno- even on the bbx lite- but these results just give a nice comparison- ill get some other overlays-

we are considering a T4 IWG evo 8/9 kit since people keep asking- but the manifold design would be drastically different than our current EWG 7163 EVO 8/9 kit-

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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 04:34 PM
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Go EFR and CBRD. Thanks for sharing the data
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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
Go EFR and CBRD. Thanks for sharing the data
LOL!

Eric- I fully expected a little harassing- lol-

im still waiting-

Happy Turkey Day Weekend!

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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
This is the result of our EVO X RBX 7163 TWIN SCROLL versus (same car) BBX evaluation-

please note- this car was always a bit strong on our dyno- even on the bbx lite- but these results just give a nice comparison- ill get some other overlays-

we are considering a T4 IWG evo 8/9 kit since people keep asking- but the manifold design would be drastically different than our current EWG 7163 EVO 8/9 kit-
Brilliant, thanks for sharing!

Is that stock stroke? E85?
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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MrLith
Brilliant, thanks for sharing!

Is that stock stroke? E85?
Here is the Car shown-

2010 EVO X GSR

PREVIOUS SETUP WAS:

BBX ball bearing CBRD manifold, Downpipe, test pipe, stock catback, CBRD FMIC, CBRD Charge pipes, ID1000CC injectors, 3 port, tune

NEW SETUP IS:

CBRD RBX 7163 Kit (manifold, 7163, downpipe), test pipe, stock catback, CBRD FMIC, CBRD Charge pipes (refinished in black), ID1000CC injectors, 3 port, tune

Otherwise- its stock block/head/cams/airbox etc-

we will be adding our new 3" intake (we previously only made a cold air- this new one is in the engine compartment with heat shield), and changing the exhaust at some point- should make an EASY 450whp (our limit on stock block on our dyno)..

add 50 whp or so for dynojet numbers!

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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
This is the result of our EVO X RBX 7163 TWIN SCROLL versus (same car) BBX evaluation-

Solid is 7163 , dashed bbx- same car- same dyno, same mods-

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please note- this car was always a bit strong on our dyno- even on the bbx lite- but these results just give a nice comparison- ill get some other overlays-

we are considering a T4 IWG evo 8/9 kit since people keep asking- but the manifold design would be drastically different than our current EWG 7163 EVO 8/9 kit-

cb
Pretty impressive boost for boost gain. I'd sure like to see a max effort tune on a dynojet.

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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 05:59 PM
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Is the BBX like a full? Or a B? Just trying to understand the numbers.

But that spool is damn impressive
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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 06:28 PM
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this particular car was a bbx lite BB ( im at home now lol and in holiday mode but i am 99% certain)

these are 3rd gear pulls BTW- same mivec tables, same timing, etc- basically tried to match peak boost and AFR-

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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
this particular car was a bbx lite BB ( im at home now lol and in holiday mode but i am 99% certain)

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Ah, I missed the "lite" part. What were the wheel sizes on that turbo for the Evo 10?
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Ah, I missed the "lite" part. What were the wheel sizes on that turbo for the Evo 10?
Id have to go back and look- but it was an off the shelf bb lite-

we never had as consistent numbers from the stock frame options we had- as we are having with these kits- they have all been making 400-440whp...

Im really really really happy with the response and feel of these kits- the TS kit did better than I anticipated- in this application- I would still choose the Vband single if I built a X again- because it has a little more head room-

If we go any larger than these options on the X- it is our Tial Vband kit- with Custom Garrett or XONA Rotor turbos- for big power-

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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRD
Id have to go back and look- but it was an off the shelf bb lite-

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ok, I looked back and couldn't find any solid numbers on wheel size, but it was advertised as a 52 lb/min turbo, so the 7163 should kill it for power. Nice part is that it does so without giving up any low end.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 09:43 AM
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the lite uses a stock turbine mated to that killer 50 gram comp wheel. so this comparo is really impressive in my eyes. sure looks like the 7163 is an amazing turbo.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 10:46 AM
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What is the output difference on Single Scroll Evo X VS EVO 8/9 with the CBRD 7163?
Are they both achieving 425whp at 26psi peek?
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 11:15 AM
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Something a little strange about that comparo. I thought the BBX-lites spool much faster then that but then I see that its utilizing a stock airbox and oem exhaust system? This would absolutely kill spool and low end torque (and obviously power). I found a ralliart spool log on the bbx-lite with oem catback that spools better then that on 91oct. What fuel and components on both runs?


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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 01:01 PM
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Thanks for sharing that chart, CBRD. Really good to see some results.

Originally Posted by altrix99
Something a little strange about that comparo. I thought the BBX-lites spool much faster then that but then I see that its utilizing a stock airbox and oem exhaust system? This would absolutely kill spool and low end torque (and obviously power).
Even if the rest of the mods weren't ideal, the post says that the mods were the same for (aside from the turbo, obviously) for the comparison.
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