AEM BEWARE!!!, Tuners please look, AEM vs Motech vs Microtech
Originally posted by silverEVO8
Whatever goes into the intake will come out of the exhaust.... Take some time to learn more about how your car works, it'll help you to spend your $$ more wisely.
Whatever goes into the intake will come out of the exhaust.... Take some time to learn more about how your car works, it'll help you to spend your $$ more wisely.
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Originally posted by silverEVO8
Whatever goes into the intake will come out of the exhaust.... Take some time to learn more about how your car works, it'll help you to spend your $$ more wisely.
Whatever goes into the intake will come out of the exhaust.... Take some time to learn more about how your car works, it'll help you to spend your $$ more wisely.
Originally posted by Pesto360
the other thing is....thats on the intake side..where it sucks in the air fron the air filter (which was on the car, I was there and nothing could possible have been in the intake tract) and it wasnt on the side where it blows it into the intercooler...I though you would know that by looking at the pictures..even i knew that and Im just a novice...who only knows what I read about these turbo cars...Im not flaming...i would just like input from some knowledgeable sources..I value your opinion
the other thing is....thats on the intake side..where it sucks in the air fron the air filter (which was on the car, I was there and nothing could possible have been in the intake tract) and it wasnt on the side where it blows it into the intercooler...I though you would know that by looking at the pictures..even i knew that and Im just a novice...who only knows what I read about these turbo cars...Im not flaming...i would just like input from some knowledgeable sources..I value your opinion
BTW - can you describe exactly when and where and how this problem developed?>
Famous last words by Pesto 360
"No you see Al...thats called being smart...Ive wrenched on alot of cars...and I know...Im not good at it...Im a butcher but i do give it a shot...on the older stuff basic etc...WHAT I am is intelligent....I look at it this way...I hire a good reputable shop like SFP.net, to do the work on my car because they are experienced and within driving distance...they know the problems, know the solutions..and when I call they call me back...works good...My setup is almost exactly the same setup you have except I have an AEM and water injection....I didnt have a car built that I could bring to the track...I want a street car...simple...but I had the bottom end done heads ferrea valves HKS 3037s etc....I see the mistakes you made blowing up a couple motors playing mechanic...Im not gonna do that on a new car that Im not familiar with....I also dont have the time...and chances are...there would be alot of parts left when i try to put it all back together
"No you see Al...thats called being smart...Ive wrenched on alot of cars...and I know...Im not good at it...Im a butcher but i do give it a shot...on the older stuff basic etc...WHAT I am is intelligent....I look at it this way...I hire a good reputable shop like SFP.net, to do the work on my car because they are experienced and within driving distance...they know the problems, know the solutions..and when I call they call me back...works good...My setup is almost exactly the same setup you have except I have an AEM and water injection....I didnt have a car built that I could bring to the track...I want a street car...simple...but I had the bottom end done heads ferrea valves HKS 3037s etc....I see the mistakes you made blowing up a couple motors playing mechanic...Im not gonna do that on a new car that Im not familiar with....I also dont have the time...and chances are...there would be alot of parts left when i try to put it all back together
the "plan"
"Um no...you redid your motor twice...read your own posts...and if u were smart....u would have built your motor FIRST then play with it...not too smart...and Im not a copycat....from you at least...I copied the HKS evo 7. Smart tuners....make a plan...set a goal...build to suit...youre just like that messy kid in the playground who runs around wild running into ****...no plan .....I cant believe these guys let u tune their brand new cars with your dynoflash...I have to say one thing about Shiv thats positive...He seems to know what he is talking about ...from a tech perspecitive...he understands the technology and the science behind it....but his service sucks...I called there a few months ago and the answering machine said they would call back within 48 hours....anyway....when choosing a tuner or mechanic ....I try to look for a man with a plan...and an understanding...you pay professionals for their expertise and experience....you have none with mitsubishis except your own...and nothing compared to shiv....id just be weary of this dynoflash thats all....seems you dont have a set plan for your car...and with all the mods u should be running 10s even 9s...so id have to say overall you get a big F ( for fraggle
"Um no...you redid your motor twice...read your own posts...and if u were smart....u would have built your motor FIRST then play with it...not too smart...and Im not a copycat....from you at least...I copied the HKS evo 7. Smart tuners....make a plan...set a goal...build to suit...youre just like that messy kid in the playground who runs around wild running into ****...no plan .....I cant believe these guys let u tune their brand new cars with your dynoflash...I have to say one thing about Shiv thats positive...He seems to know what he is talking about ...from a tech perspecitive...he understands the technology and the science behind it....but his service sucks...I called there a few months ago and the answering machine said they would call back within 48 hours....anyway....when choosing a tuner or mechanic ....I try to look for a man with a plan...and an understanding...you pay professionals for their expertise and experience....you have none with mitsubishis except your own...and nothing compared to shiv....id just be weary of this dynoflash thats all....seems you dont have a set plan for your car...and with all the mods u should be running 10s even 9s...so id have to say overall you get a big F ( for fraggle
the dream
"Im close by miami .the car is jussssssssssssssst about done..just dialing it in...goes on the dyno tomorrow hopefully...but again... IM NOT building a race car...and Im not entering the horsepower wars on here...Im hoping to put about 400 to the wheels...anything else is gravy on 93 octane...it will be a very detuned motor...so it will be dependable...my car was totally stock before this...again I had a plan...so i dont have to disassemble this 4-5 times..."
"Im close by miami .the car is jussssssssssssssst about done..just dialing it in...goes on the dyno tomorrow hopefully...but again... IM NOT building a race car...and Im not entering the horsepower wars on here...Im hoping to put about 400 to the wheels...anything else is gravy on 93 octane...it will be a very detuned motor...so it will be dependable...my car was totally stock before this...again I had a plan...so i dont have to disassemble this 4-5 times..."
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Originally posted by DynoFlash
Anyway - its all part of the game !
Remember when you were making fun of me when I was dealing with a few small issues on my car - eg when my valve guide tip broke off or when I wanted to change my pistons - etc ? You attacked me by saying I didn't have a "plan"
I told you back then there is no such thing as having a "plan" in this game
You learn from your mistakes and you make it better next time
If you just want to drive it and no have any issues - stick with a slow Ferrari or BMW
IF you want serious power and speed out of a 2.0 L 4g63 - then you are going to have a few bumps along the way till you perfect the soup - - which is what I am working hard to do
Both you and that Nick were on my ***** saying what an idiot I was only a few weeks ago and how great the AEM set up was - - - now your car is DOA and his car is running as slow as a stock evo with a giant tubro and stand alone - go figure man.
I wish you the best of luck on this project and hope you have the determination to keep going forward and not give up becuase of a few silly problems - - - next time you will be more understanding when you hear of some other guy pushing the envelope who is having a few problems along the way - its part of the deal
Anyway - its all part of the game !
Remember when you were making fun of me when I was dealing with a few small issues on my car - eg when my valve guide tip broke off or when I wanted to change my pistons - etc ? You attacked me by saying I didn't have a "plan"
I told you back then there is no such thing as having a "plan" in this game
You learn from your mistakes and you make it better next time
If you just want to drive it and no have any issues - stick with a slow Ferrari or BMW
IF you want serious power and speed out of a 2.0 L 4g63 - then you are going to have a few bumps along the way till you perfect the soup - - which is what I am working hard to do
Both you and that Nick were on my ***** saying what an idiot I was only a few weeks ago and how great the AEM set up was - - - now your car is DOA and his car is running as slow as a stock evo with a giant tubro and stand alone - go figure man.
I wish you the best of luck on this project and hope you have the determination to keep going forward and not give up becuase of a few silly problems - - - next time you will be more understanding when you hear of some other guy pushing the envelope who is having a few problems along the way - its part of the deal
same boat?
"Your posts said your bearings were going and you were strecting your head bolts on your stock motor...Now...a bad valve guide...a good mechanic would have picked up before he reassembled the motor....seem like u will spend more on yours than i will when all is said and done so I guess we are in the same boat
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"Your posts said your bearings were going and you were strecting your head bolts on your stock motor...Now...a bad valve guide...a good mechanic would have picked up before he reassembled the motor....seem like u will spend more on yours than i will when all is said and done so I guess we are in the same boat
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I think it is pretty safe to say that something got in there !! if the blades "touched" down and hit the housing can be investagated by taking the turbo apart and checking each component ... just my 2 cents 
Last edited by douche nozzle; Dec 24, 2003 at 09:02 AM.
Originally posted by DynoFlash
Famous last words by Pesto 360
"No you see Al...thats called being smart...Ive wrenched on alot of cars...and I know...Im not good at it...Im a butcher but i do give it a shot...on the older stuff basic etc...WHAT I am is intelligent....I look at it this way...I hire a good reputable shop like SFP.net, to do the work on my car because they are experienced and within driving distance...they know the problems, know the solutions..and when I call they call me back...works good...My setup is almost exactly the same setup you have except I have an AEM and water injection....I didnt have a car built that I could bring to the track...I want a street car...simple...but I had the bottom end done heads ferrea valves HKS 3037s etc....I see the mistakes you made blowing up a couple motors playing mechanic...Im not gonna do that on a new car that Im not familiar with....I also dont have the time...and chances are...there would be alot of parts left when i try to put it all back together
Famous last words by Pesto 360
"No you see Al...thats called being smart...Ive wrenched on alot of cars...and I know...Im not good at it...Im a butcher but i do give it a shot...on the older stuff basic etc...WHAT I am is intelligent....I look at it this way...I hire a good reputable shop like SFP.net, to do the work on my car because they are experienced and within driving distance...they know the problems, know the solutions..and when I call they call me back...works good...My setup is almost exactly the same setup you have except I have an AEM and water injection....I didnt have a car built that I could bring to the track...I want a street car...simple...but I had the bottom end done heads ferrea valves HKS 3037s etc....I see the mistakes you made blowing up a couple motors playing mechanic...Im not gonna do that on a new car that Im not familiar with....I also dont have the time...and chances are...there would be alot of parts left when i try to put it all back together
Jeeze Al the stab was sharp the first thrust. The point has been crystal no need to drag the dead through the street. Class man and besides its Christmas
Pesto on "mistakes"
Mistakes...by pure definition a wrong action or statement proceeding from faulty judgment, inadequate knowledge, or inattention
Thats what u do when u do R&D u make alot of those...and thats what youre doing....not a bad thing...we all make mistakes...even when we try not to....but only a fool doesnt learn from others or his own
Mistakes...by pure definition a wrong action or statement proceeding from faulty judgment, inadequate knowledge, or inattention
Thats what u do when u do R&D u make alot of those...and thats what youre doing....not a bad thing...we all make mistakes...even when we try not to....but only a fool doesnt learn from others or his own
more pesto
let me clarify the mistake issue..by pure definition a wrong action or statement proceeding from faulty judgment, inadequate knowledge, or inattention
NOW if youre saying that you werent making mistakes...then that means you were purposely doing modifications that you already knew or had knowledge that would be ineffective...and in that case i agree...you wouldnt be making a mistake....but that would just make u a moron
let me clarify the mistake issue..by pure definition a wrong action or statement proceeding from faulty judgment, inadequate knowledge, or inattention
NOW if youre saying that you werent making mistakes...then that means you were purposely doing modifications that you already knew or had knowledge that would be ineffective...and in that case i agree...you wouldnt be making a mistake....but that would just make u a moron
Ive been in amazement with some of the lack of pathway knowledge some tuners are saying
This is EXACTLY why I don't bother posting in the tech forums....noone is after the actual reason or possible reason why something happened the way it did. Everyone seems more content to bury their head in the sand, or point the finger.
Saying there is no way that something could have gotten into the intake is not looking at all the possibilities. Again, what kind of filter was on there? What kind of intake pipe?
