Buschur Flashed........WOW.
Al,
Just my observations...
I've been reading this board for quite some time, even before the Evo was in the U.S. and have seen it grow. What happened to you here was your own doing, no one elses. Blame yourself. And from what i've gathered through reading months of posts from Shiv and yourself is that it's in your best interest for your mental well being to not get into it with Shiv, because you can't seem to break Shiv as he has does to you. He'll call you on every falicy you post about him or his products. He has that right. Some may not like it, but for every customer people think Shiv loses for posting his toughts he gains more than 1 to make up for it. You're rivalry with Shiv dates back to NAISOC. Shiv is like an idol to you. You wish you could have the knowledge and charisma he has. You don't. That's how i read and see it.
Just my observations...
I've been reading this board for quite some time, even before the Evo was in the U.S. and have seen it grow. What happened to you here was your own doing, no one elses. Blame yourself. And from what i've gathered through reading months of posts from Shiv and yourself is that it's in your best interest for your mental well being to not get into it with Shiv, because you can't seem to break Shiv as he has does to you. He'll call you on every falicy you post about him or his products. He has that right. Some may not like it, but for every customer people think Shiv loses for posting his toughts he gains more than 1 to make up for it. You're rivalry with Shiv dates back to NAISOC. Shiv is like an idol to you. You wish you could have the knowledge and charisma he has. You don't. That's how i read and see it.
Originally posted by jansolo
Honestly, that sounds like a weak cop-out.. or a George W. Bush defense when asked about the lack of WMD in Iraq.
"They are evil, bad, mean people I tell you!"
Honestly, that sounds like a weak cop-out.. or a George W. Bush defense when asked about the lack of WMD in Iraq.
"They are evil, bad, mean people I tell you!"
I am no President.
I am a simple guy who likes Evos and had a dream to make a few bucks to cover my car parts bills tuning them.
Anyone who knows me in person knows I live, sleep and **** evos and I spend most of my time either posting here or working on my Evo. Like anyone else who really enjoys something - I decided to try and earn a living doing it.
I bought a machine, learned to use it and enjoy what I am doing.
Somehow, my path has collided with these evil, nasty forces that want to stop me from doing what I like to do.
Frankly, I have other concerns and prorities and really don;t want to waste any more time arguing with a bunch of idiots - NONE of which would have the nerve to say half of the **** they are posting here behind the security of a screen name to my face.
Carry on team Vishnu - bash me - attack me - i am through wasting my time on your negative and idiotic smear
Last edited by Alfriedesq; Jan 17, 2004 at 11:09 PM.
shiv doing what you've banned others for? (and his customers)
Mark, are you reading this?
I'm amazed Dave starts a thread.... Shiv bashes it... Dave asks him to go away.... he doesn't.... shiv's customers start bashing Al/dynoflash on Dave's thread(jacking it).... Al defends himself... They (the Vishnu mafia smells blood) and keep jacking the thread. Why? to discredit Dave????Is this the way you protect your vendors????( If I was Dave I'd be really pissed) is this the way you (collective moderators/admins) run an unbiased forum???? A few pm's quickly done with 1 warning on the pm to stop...right then don't repost to the listed thread. if they don't 1 time out right then!!!Force the offendors to stop right then. Or is this really the evolutionm.vishnu.net forum (will shiv pay all your IT bills??) and you just haven't changed the URL yet????
(sorry about the last comment but Buschurs stuff is as good or better than anything out there JDM/EUROSpec/or your choice)
I'm amazed Dave starts a thread.... Shiv bashes it... Dave asks him to go away.... he doesn't.... shiv's customers start bashing Al/dynoflash on Dave's thread(jacking it).... Al defends himself... They (the Vishnu mafia smells blood) and keep jacking the thread. Why? to discredit Dave????Is this the way you protect your vendors????( If I was Dave I'd be really pissed) is this the way you (collective moderators/admins) run an unbiased forum???? A few pm's quickly done with 1 warning on the pm to stop...right then don't repost to the listed thread. if they don't 1 time out right then!!!Force the offendors to stop right then. Or is this really the evolutionm.vishnu.net forum (will shiv pay all your IT bills??) and you just haven't changed the URL yet????
(sorry about the last comment but Buschurs stuff is as good or better than anything out there JDM/EUROSpec/or your choice)
Originally posted by davidbuschur
I can't believe Al was banned from here for doing the same thing you came in here doing. I haven't even seen a moderator say anything to you about it. I hope to see that change.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
I can't believe Al was banned from here for doing the same thing you came in here doing. I haven't even seen a moderator say anything to you about it. I hope to see that change.
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com
Originally posted by BADEVO
AMEN to that, but hey the boys look out for each other I guess.
AMEN to that, but hey the boys look out for each other I guess.
Well, I can't belive no one had did this yet, but here are some of my favorite quotes from David
"but now that you mention it your HP curve does suck"
"seagulls ****ting on your windshield on one of your canyon runs"
"VISHNU stands for "Very Inadaquate **** Has No Use"
(i removed this one as not to cause more problems)
"Read and comprehend all the information before pointing your finger. "
"Thanks for letting me study the two charts."
"I SUCK on computers (I don't actually "suck on computers" )"
Memorable.....
"but now that you mention it your HP curve does suck"
"seagulls ****ting on your windshield on one of your canyon runs"
"VISHNU stands for "Very Inadaquate **** Has No Use"
(i removed this one as not to cause more problems)
"Read and comprehend all the information before pointing your finger. "
"Thanks for letting me study the two charts."
"I SUCK on computers (I don't actually "suck on computers" )"
Memorable.....
Originally posted by n00dle
Al,
Just my observations...
I've been reading this board for quite some time, even before the Evo was in the U.S. and have seen it grow. What happened to you here was your own doing, no one elses. Blame yourself. And from what i've gathered through reading months of posts from Shiv and yourself is that it's in your best interest for your mental well being to not get into it with Shiv, because you can't seem to break Shiv as he has does to you. He'll call you on every falicy you post about him or his products. He has that right. Some may not like it, but for every customer people think Shiv loses for posting his toughts he gains more than 1 to make up for it. You're rivalry with Shiv dates back to NAISOC. Shiv is like an idol to you. You wish you could have the knowledge and charisma he has. You don't. That's how i read and see it.
Al,
Just my observations...
I've been reading this board for quite some time, even before the Evo was in the U.S. and have seen it grow. What happened to you here was your own doing, no one elses. Blame yourself. And from what i've gathered through reading months of posts from Shiv and yourself is that it's in your best interest for your mental well being to not get into it with Shiv, because you can't seem to break Shiv as he has does to you. He'll call you on every falicy you post about him or his products. He has that right. Some may not like it, but for every customer people think Shiv loses for posting his toughts he gains more than 1 to make up for it. You're rivalry with Shiv dates back to NAISOC. Shiv is like an idol to you. You wish you could have the knowledge and charisma he has. You don't. That's how i read and see it.
This is a LOOSE / LOOSE situation - there are no winners.
What started as a bizzare pastime on NASIOC has now sprialed into a quite ugly and unpleasant SOP here on Evom.
I sure did a lot of things I shouldn;t have and made my fair share of stupid moves. Lets face it, I'm not your typical 9 - 5 guys who drives a lexus. I am a hare core gear head / evo maniac and I probably have about 20 screws loose.
Did you waste hours of your time reading my ramblings on this forum - sorry I guess you must be fairly wierd yourself.
I love all you guys, I love my evo and this is one great forum.
Believe me when I say there is a lot of mud and dirt to sling back at Shiv. Its just not going to help me, the forum or Shiv.
This is all a giant waste of time.
And BTW - Shiv is no idol to me. I leaned a lot from him on car tuning but he has a lot to learn about how to act.
If it makes all you guys feel better - you win - I give up - I've had enough. Go ahead - get the last word - be my guest.
You remember Tony Montana in Scar Face - "say good by to the bad guy. . . . ?" You guys are all RIGHT and I'm wrong. Its all MY fault and I deserve everything.
I'll see you all on the track and we'll see how you all back up those big mouths when its crunch time.
Last edited by Alfriedesq; Jan 17, 2004 at 11:16 PM.
Re: shiv doing what you've banned others for? (and his customers)
Originally posted by robi
Mark, are you reading this?
I'm amazed Dave starts a thread.... Shiv bashes it... Dave asks him to go away.... he doesn't.... shiv's customers start bashing Al/dynoflash on Dave's thread(jacking it).... Al defends himself... They (the Vishnu mafia smells blood) and keep jacking the thread. Why? to discredit Dave????Is this the way you protect your vendors????( If I was Dave I'd be really pissed) is this the way you (collective moderators/admins) run an unbiased forum???? A few pm's quickly done with 1 warning on the pm to stop...right then don't repost to the listed thread. if they don't 1 time out right then!!!Force the offendors to stop right then. Or is this really the evolutionm.vishnu.net forum (will shiv pay all your IT bills??) and you just haven't changed the URL yet????
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Score nice (Nissan) car man! ... but do you own an EVO? Please cure my ignorance.
Mark, are you reading this?
I'm amazed Dave starts a thread.... Shiv bashes it... Dave asks him to go away.... he doesn't.... shiv's customers start bashing Al/dynoflash on Dave's thread(jacking it).... Al defends himself... They (the Vishnu mafia smells blood) and keep jacking the thread. Why? to discredit Dave????Is this the way you protect your vendors????( If I was Dave I'd be really pissed) is this the way you (collective moderators/admins) run an unbiased forum???? A few pm's quickly done with 1 warning on the pm to stop...right then don't repost to the listed thread. if they don't 1 time out right then!!!Force the offendors to stop right then. Or is this really the evolutionm.vishnu.net forum (will shiv pay all your IT bills??) and you just haven't changed the URL yet????
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Score nice (Nissan) car man! ... but do you own an EVO? Please cure my ignorance.
Originally posted by Alfriedesq
No one is going to break me. I am just done with this. I've made a personal decision that I am better from this and I am going to try and be more positive in my remarks in the future.
This is a LOOSE / LOOSE situation - there are no winners.
What started as a bizzare pastime on NASIOC has now sprialed into a quite ugly and unpleasant SOP here on Evom.
Believe me when I say there is a lot of mud and dirt to sling back at Shiv. Its just not going to help me, the forum or Shiv.
This is all a giant waste of time.
And BTW - Shiv is no idol to me.
If it makes all you guys feel better - you win - I give up - I've had enough. Go ahead - get the last word - be my guest.
I'll see you all on the track and we'll see how you all back up those big mouths when its crunch time.
No one is going to break me. I am just done with this. I've made a personal decision that I am better from this and I am going to try and be more positive in my remarks in the future.
This is a LOOSE / LOOSE situation - there are no winners.
What started as a bizzare pastime on NASIOC has now sprialed into a quite ugly and unpleasant SOP here on Evom.
Believe me when I say there is a lot of mud and dirt to sling back at Shiv. Its just not going to help me, the forum or Shiv.
This is all a giant waste of time.
And BTW - Shiv is no idol to me.
If it makes all you guys feel better - you win - I give up - I've had enough. Go ahead - get the last word - be my guest.
I'll see you all on the track and we'll see how you all back up those big mouths when its crunch time.
You're right... it is a waste of time and probably won't help you. This isn't a contest, so nobody here wins.
Originally posted by metaphysical
SmogRunner... You don't work for George Bush do you?
Argument:
X > Y (Without consideration of Gross Numbers due to testing methods)
Supporting Evidence:
X > Y In Torque Loss (Not gross number)
X > Y In Torque Curve (Not * *)
Respond with...
X > Y Do to dyno gross number differences
Hello! PSU offers a basic remedial Logic course. I would be happy to get you enrolled.
[BOLD]Example of Shiv Slandering: [/BOLD]
Shiv and Cohort's SLANDER S-AFC
SmogRunner... You don't work for George Bush do you?

Argument:
X > Y (Without consideration of Gross Numbers due to testing methods)
Supporting Evidence:
X > Y In Torque Loss (Not gross number)
X > Y In Torque Curve (Not * *)
Respond with...
X > Y Do to dyno gross number differences
Hello! PSU offers a basic remedial Logic course. I would be happy to get you enrolled.
[BOLD]Example of Shiv Slandering: [/BOLD]
Shiv and Cohort's SLANDER S-AFC
Now look at my car. It is a Vishnu Stage One Evo rated at 276 horsepower on the Vishnu dyno when using 98 octane. (All my dyno sheets are on EVOM as are my time slips)
Wow! Buscher makes 67 more horsepower with lower octane fuel, RIGHT? Well, I can garantee that Buscher didn't use an amatuer driver like me to run that 111.2 trap speed, right? His team is unparalleled in this arena. OK then, today I ran 110.97 mph trap: This was the fourth run of my life and my trap is just .2 MPH behind the Buscher Stage 3 that is loaded with intake, ic piping, etc. that mine doesn't have. So Metaphysical, how do you explain my car and Buschers being about the same with his making 343 and mine making 276?
If you need any help verifying this, let me know.
Reread my arguement.
Reread David's posts.
And what does driving ability have to do with trap speed?
Edited: Do to my insensitive comment regarding my frustration at another members ability to comprehend a logical linear arguement.
Reread David's posts.
And what does driving ability have to do with trap speed?
Edited: Do to my insensitive comment regarding my frustration at another members ability to comprehend a logical linear arguement.
Last edited by metaphysical; Jan 18, 2004 at 08:34 AM.
Well, regardless of all the highjacking attempts at this thread and the never ending Al bashing, the apparent truth is that Buschur with his colaboration with Al has the most credible and affordable path to upgrading the EVO. I'm going to go with Buschurs reflash and as many of his products that I can. I know that I'm probably gonna get blasted by Shiv's loyal buddies, but newbies should first read up on DSM history. The EVO shares the 4g63 with the DSMs. Please read up on DSMs, their history and who's been building, tuning and running the fastest and most powerful 4g63 powered cars...... (hint, it's not Vishnu)
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david i stand by my original assessment of your AFC-tuned race gas torque curve vs. vishnu's.
i am not sure what algebra you are employing that has you gaining torque between 5k and 5.5k rpm but i will assume in your enthusiasm you made a typo.
i did not post the hp chart corresponding to the vishnu torque chart for sake of brevity. obviously the torque curve implies the hp curve and i didn't need to insult anyone's intelligence (as you did by comparing absolute dyno numbers rather than curve features).
had i posted the hp curve, you would have noticed that the vishnu hp climbs as does yours until about 7000rpm. where is the "****ti"ness? oh heck, decide for yourselves folks:


as i said, it will be more interesting to compare the BuschurFlash'ed chart.
i am not sure what algebra you are employing that has you gaining torque between 5k and 5.5k rpm but i will assume in your enthusiasm you made a typo.
i did not post the hp chart corresponding to the vishnu torque chart for sake of brevity. obviously the torque curve implies the hp curve and i didn't need to insult anyone's intelligence (as you did by comparing absolute dyno numbers rather than curve features).
had i posted the hp curve, you would have noticed that the vishnu hp climbs as does yours until about 7000rpm. where is the "****ti"ness? oh heck, decide for yourselves folks:

as i said, it will be more interesting to compare the BuschurFlash'ed chart.
Last edited by ez76; Jan 17, 2004 at 11:28 PM.


