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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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I just hope any parts developed will fit in my gearbox as well. Starting to make some progress on importing a GTA and am only doing so on the expectation that I'll be able to build the box in that to handle what ever I throw at it in the future.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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Greg, unfortunately, nothing is going to interchange from what I am figuring out now.....GT-A is a five speed auto, this is a four.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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Well, this should be a game changer!
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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This is awesome!!!! I want
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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Wow! Once again buschur ftw!
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by David Buschur
From the start English set out to offer their set up for the masses to bolt into any turbo kit, I didn't want to step on their toes with that and told Aaron I'd take a different route with what we offered.

The roll racing it's hard to say. Typically the stock final drive will ET better in an EVO from what we've found VS a 4.11 gear. Now, if your car is out of power up top in the RPM and you have to drive the car in that range to finish the 1/4 mile then the 4.11 gear set will make the car faster because it keeps the RPM lower and the engine in the power curve better.

Another point, an automatic car will not MPH as high as an auto car BUT the ET from the auto will be better. So from point A to point B the car should be quicker but will not have the MPH of a 5 speed car. My best to date is 9.04 at 159.64 mph, I don't expect to see 159.64 mph again, I'm guessing at best my car may MPH around 155 now but I am hoping the ET's will be in the 8's though. I'd say that if you ran someone from a 40 roll that the auto would be quicker and get out on the 5 speed car initially. With the higher MPH though the 5 speed car may just reel it back in.

**Side note, the 5 speed car would reel it in until he missed a gear! hahaha
thanks for the reply. basically with the stock evo 5 speed gearing vs the stock 4 speed gearing with the same car/same mods the auto will pull ahead 1st but the 5 speed will take the win in the end.

is there an option for a 5 speed auto or just 4 speed. i would guess a 5 speed auto would be better then a 4 speed auto on the street right?

i saw the breakage. OUCH. but thanks for being one of the guys doing the R&D for us. its awesome that your taking this to that type of level.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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The 4 speed auto is going to go from point A to point B QUICKER than the 5 speed but the 5 speed when it gets to point B is going to have higher MPH. I think that is the best description I can come up with.

Currently there is no 5 speed auto option but that may come in the future, it's going to depend on the durability of this project. English is having very good luck at their power levels so far, my car has probably the best curve I've seen to date (maybe I am partial cause it's mine) and broke the trans nearly instantly. Keep in mind too, this trans was brand new when I started, nothing was worn out. Also keep in mind we've upgraded a handful of internals in it, which may limit some clutch slip inside and assisted in twisting the parts into multiple pieces.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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New vs. old parts, there is something to be said about "seasoned" parts. They usually lack stress risers and have reached a lower internal energy state from the machining and forming processes. Provided the metallurgy hasn't under gone fatigue crack nucleation, the old parts can actually be stronger.

Point being, I wonder if new parts could have actually hurt you here. Although, it's not often that is the case but for an example, BMW used motors with a minimum of 100k miles though for their ~1000HP/L turbo F1 motors...it's a thought.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 06:04 PM
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Yes, there is some truth to that 03white. In reality there are a lot of parts in this trans that are going to need to be built and upgraded though for it to work at my power level.

The project is currently up on jack stands waiting for the new shafts to be built. Aaron at English is handling it.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 12:50 PM
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Congrats Dave. Didn't know this is what you were cookin. I met Neil Switzer in Texas...I asked him to say hi.
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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Thanks R/T, I figured you were in the loop the entire time! I rarely see Neil, sounds like a missed a darn good time down there, maybe next year I'll have to go.
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by David Buschur
sounds like a missed a darn good time down there, maybe next year I'll have to go.
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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I don't know buddy, new daddy and all, you gonna be allowed to go?! If so you know we'd have a blast. IF I can get this auto trans figured out we may even have a little sumptin-sumptin for them
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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Actually Dave I refuse to use new parts in my trans, Been there broke that. It's funny how seasoned parts are actually stronger, but I also have a ton of treated stuff too.
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