Well you can get the Dynoflash and enjoy the car or get the other and check the boards everyday and to make sure nobody is running software version 1.7.12.14 and might be one up on you or have to worry about turning off your car to reset to get full boost.

Im not a tuner guy I just want my car to be reliable and run good. My 2 cents

 

Vishnu customer since 5/2003, lots of performance, no knocking, no downtime

So Vishnu calls it firmware version 1.8.1, Dynoflash calls it Fireball 3, but every tuner worth patronizing is continuously working to improve their offerings. The nice thing about the XEDE though is that it is actually an independent system running its own software, so the upgrade possibilities are pretty extensive (check out the Vishnu forum for more information about what's coming down the pipe). Personally I look forward to firmware revisions because they usually bring more features whereas there's not too much a new ECU flash can bring apart from revised fuel, timing and boost.

That being said, your point about "having to reset to get full boost" is well taken. The XEDE is continuously being improved but software is software and software can have bugs. Sometimes improvements do come at the cost of minor annoyances, but in the XEDE's case they do not come at the cost of safety (in my experience, or that of anyone I've known who used the device properly -- ANY tuning device can be abused). The XEDE is a complex device but fundamentally it is a safe device which will literally drop out of the engine control path if there is an installation or unexpected operational issue.

 

Point well spoken. For someone like me who just drives the car and does not want to bother with upgrades or tuning the Dynoflash in my opinion seems best for the money. Again that is only my opinion.

 

Having been patient with this treads development.. Will you users please post your before and after impressions on the flash you chose??? What I would like to know is how the low end drivability is affected (can you drive 35 in 5th?), how the midrange feels now (does it spool quicker?) and what is it like on top (does the power band feel sharper as you rev, stay even, or soften?) compared to stock. Dyno curves are good too if you have a before and after that would be great. All three of the companies mentioned in this thread are credible regardless of approach and philosophy they have satisfied customers and no, that is NO, blown or burned up engines.

Of course the exede is not a reflash but since it will sit on the Xflash, I take it that is your reason for mentioing it here. It would be a nicety to have the exede since I could then switch between 91 and 98 octane, not to mention compensation for temp differences that range from 32 to 119.

 

WORKS P2 customer
7 months - 8000 miles.

Can I drive 35 in 5th - why the hell would I want to do that?
Low range - better, quicker spool, less lag right off the line
Mid range - again more spooling, better overall PSI and hold
High range - increased PSI, increased rev limit

Overall - just better. I netted 27whp on a bone stock car on a Dyno Dynamics Dyno (they read all 4 tires and read low).
I later added only a cat-back, and can run low 13's at the track with a stock clutch no problem.

Could the other flashes had done the same - well, neither were really available back when I got mine.
Is the P2 the best IMO?? Not necessarily. I'm happy with what I have.
What I choose the P2 if I had to do it again?? Back then - yes. Now - not sure, I'd do my research and plan out my mod list before choosing.

 

Had the P2 and it made my car faster but not substantially. Gained 20-25 over stock depending on dyno. Will likely pull on an Sti with this flash with equal driver but wll not dominate. But after stage 1+ I noticed a substantial gain and Stis w/o turbo upgrade are in big trouble if they tangle with me now. IMO All three flashes are safe and will make your car faster but if you want to go crazy fast and have the ability to add 30-40 hp at the flick of a switch and race gas the Stage 1+ is the ticket. Just make a choice and decide what level of performance will make you happy. IMO Work is a lil more conservative than Al or Shiv when it comes to peak performance numbers and still appear as reliable.

 

Works.

 

oh wow and you guys are fiesty about prices! look at subaru parts! haha some are just as high, dont even say that the tunes are not expensive, the lowest cost tunes we have come from Cobb Tuning ( www.cobbtuning.com ) and retails for $600!!! and they are a bargain and get sooooo much from them.

Be aware that the technology that Cobb is using on the Subaru's will be appearing to an LanEVO soon. www.accessecu.com

check it out guys!

*i do not work for Cobb, but i am a very very supportive fan =-)

 

dynoflash the only one i would use. al is definately on top of his game

 

al is a nice guy despite what some may say, he took care of me. Im gonna go find out exactly how much his dynoflash helped this wednesday and ill report back to u guys.

 

to bad al is a hack not a real tuner

 

when is the last time you tuned an evo,went 11.20's,or done anything respectable in the import industry?sound like you are a little jelous

 

Maybe it's all the stuff he's blown that is being commented on. Al is just more 'voicey' than most, so runs a higher profile. I value his opinion as much as the next guy and all.

Others company's have ran close of faster speeds the first time out to the track - w/o problems. Now that is impressive, to not suffer huge setbacks. It's all learning.

I think people need to keep in mind with Dynoflash, usually the cost is more like $450 with the tuning plus dyno time if you want the professional touch from Al.

 

At the Dyno Day here in Atlanta the xede / xflash made 30-50 MORE whp on a DynoDynamics then the dynoflash, 3 were tested and all made more power when they got rid of the dynoflash.

 

I would be surprised if an xede/xflash showed a 50hp gain by itself, let alone on top of the atleast 20hp gain you would see from a dynoflash. that would be like a 50-70hp gain