I didn't get that impression at all that you were being hostile. I was just mentioning about VW's lack of service. Sorry if I came off as being antagonistic or offensive- definitely not my intent!

I have personally owned a VW (2002 1.8T GTI) and aside from crappy tires, busted window regulators, and a few burned out bulbs, I never had any problems....which includes the recall for coil packs. I just wasn't happy about how my situation was handled with my wheels.

Other times I had to leave the car for warranty work (window regulators) and I ended up with some very crappy, and even UNRELIABLE rental cars, but that's more the dealership than VoA. In fact, they had to get me a car from Enterprise once and I ended up having to pay $1 surcharge to my credit card for the rental! No, $1 isn't a big deal, but it's a principal of the thing. It just wasn't worth fighting over.

Aside from the way some of these dealings were handled, I was very happy with my VW, but it just wasn't fast enough or had enough potential to be the car I wanted it to be.....

 

So you definitely understand how I feel about Mitsu right now.
No car is perfect, every car will break at some point and no matter how fast a car is there is always a faster car. I'm not claiming the R32 is perfect, in fact I didn't even intend to discuss it in this thread. What I'm saying is Mitsu and my dealership were terrible to me. I've never been treated this poorly on ANY car before. I'm leaving them and going to another car. When you guys identify the fastest car in the world that never breaks let me know. In the mean time I'm happy with my choice.

 

Thank you. Glad to see someone gets it. I don't have the time expertise or tools to work on my cars. I can't drop everything when my car breaks and go home to fix it. A warranty IS important to me even if I'm not crazy about ANYONE working on my car either. I have no choice.

 

if you really think other car companies warranty are much better give it a shot.

 

i know what youre thinking but you sold your car because youre unhappy with the dealer treatment, i sold the r32 because it broke in places that have to do with MY safey, if my rim had split open at 100 mph i may not be talking to you, same thing with the random airbag deployment. the r32 was hazardous to my safety so i got rid of it. I would rather blow a tranny than have my rims fall apart on the expressway or have something inflate in my face at 100mph. VW's are prone to electical problems... and once one thing goes wrong with those cars...then thats it, everything starts breaking, those cars are usually fine until you get the first problem... then its like a domino effect of problems for VW's

 

Dare I say that neither my parents or I have ever had a problem with GM dealerships?

 

How much warranty work did you get done after the warranty expired? I wonder how many clutches were replaced on the V8 Zs under warranty? I know the few I knew of were denied.

The probelm is buying a car like the EVO, R32 or STi and expecting extended warranty coverage. If you want extended coverage, buy an extended warranty.

 

You're missing the point. A warranty is a warranty (other than length). I'm getting out of a vehicle that has run out of warrant AND after getting a raw deal from the dealership and the manufacturer to get into a car WITH a warranty. I never said one or the other warranty is better.

 

Actually I sold the car because I'm unhappy with the dealer and Mitsu treatment AND because the brakes continuously locked up at speed and the dealership ran it for 60 miles iwth the brakes locking and unlocking while they "tested" it. I thin it's a little of both for me. Mechanical failure and dealer/Mitsu unhappiness.

Don't miss the point here that this was not a comparison. The choice (and the thread) was about getting out from under a dealership and Mitsu...not about comparing cars.

 

Zippo.

I wasn't expecting anything beyond warranty coverage...

 

You Dare...but then again aren't Subaru and GM in bed together now...or did Saab ruin that relationship?

 

I never had to use my extended warranty for anything but an ABS sensor. Others were making comments about warranties. Obviously a warranty and customer service are high selling points for you. All I'm saying is that maybe you're looking at the wrong company.

If you're getting a raw deal from a particular dealership, find another one to purchase your vehicle from. Nothing says that you have to buy said car from said dealership.....

 

Is your comment a back-handed slap insinuation of me backing GM just because they owned 20% of Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru's parent company)? If it is, I'm sorry to disappoint you but I don't play the "Company Fanboy" game. If I received poor service from a company, I'm surely not going to back them just because of who they are or who they own. That may be the way you roll, but it isn't the way I do, so please, explain where you're trying to head with this.

Well, whatever the case, isn't it ironic how Saab's most reliable vehicle wasn't a Saab at all? My family has owned numerous GM vehicles and we still do. Between my immediate family and my wife, we CURRENTLY own a 1989 TransAm GTA, 2001 Bonneville, 2001 Grand Prix, 1994 B4C Camaro, 1997 Saturn SC1, and 2006 G6. If you would like, I can list all of the GM cars my family has owned within the past 32 years.

And for the record, GM and Subaru parted ways last year. Toyota has since picked up the 20% of Fuji Heavy Industries that GM dumped off.

 

Actually I'm getting a raw deal from the dealership AND Mitsu so I don't want to just move to another Mitsu dealer. I've never had ANY problems liske this with any car and I even held on to this dealership after a previous car was damaged by service. This was a major mess so yes customer service is important to me but I wasn't looking for perfection...just not terrible I guess.

As far as warranty again this is more of the difference between having a warranty and NOT having a warranty and not at all a debate of how good each company's warranty is.

I'll be getting cars elsewhere for sure. Too bad this dealership also deals Lexus, Toyota and Honda...

 

Nope it was just a joke...I wasn't going anywhere with it. I have no issues with Subaru or GM...but I do follow the car manufacturer shell game. I had a '69 Camaro convertible...factory Hurst....tons of fun for a while. WIsh I still had that one parked in the garage.