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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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if your talking about beating a z06 in drag, all you need is a good driver, aem ems tuned, hks272s, full 3" exhaust, intake, ebc @21 or 22 lbs, act HDSS, 20g-9 turbo, forge dv and you should be able to put down most 360 awhp. With a good launch/driver/weather ive seen evos do low 11's with these mods and minus the turbo. this is the most inexpensive way, but not the most gauranteed way to do it.

If you really want to crank it up from that point and beat him by several car lengths, go with a gt35r turbo upgrade and stoker kit to better wind up that turbo. if you get around 450-470 awhp easily (on pump and low boost) , you should beat him in a drag race, but still run out of gear after 160-170mph mark. Thats when you want to start looking at final drive/ gear ratio specs of your tranny which can be expensive.
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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Not sure if it's been posted and I'm not about to read all the posts BUT....
Bone stock 06 Z06 (with DRs) 10.85 at 129.5mph

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1541575
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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HAHA how am I being rediculous. I am just going by what you said. which was

Did you not just say that the closest car that can rival it in all performance tests was over 200k? Hell from that statement I can throw in anything with 4 wheels and an engine if you want to play technical and beleive me with 200k I can think of some cars that can rival it in many different performance aspects. You mention motorcycles haha I would never mention such a thing cause its not a car. I simply told you from what you had exclaimed earlier that you are wrong in every aspect of your statement.

Now we can go back and forth and go over the reasons why you think comparing a c6 zo6 is not fair to the atom but remember one thing I was simply going by the exact parameters of your previous statement.
Use common sense you know what he meant.
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Green_Goblin
Still rediculouse to compare a car with no bodywork , no interior, nothing but mechanics, to a full street car. You would compare it to any road going Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, etc. Keep living in your little fantasy world, bud.
Hey, again I am going by what YOU YOURSELF said! O and btw, it does have a couple body panels, it does have an interior depending on what you ordered, and it is a streetable car people have gotten them 100% street legal and registered.

Also I can gaurantee you that a porsche 911 tt would smash on it in any circuit track granted it is more expensive than the c6zo6 but its still less than 200grand. I would also think that the ford gt would be very competitive with the c6z and that is less than 200grand as well(i guess it depends on where you get it). I also think that the mercedes sl65(after all it is a v12 tt)its price tag is also just under 200grand and is also competitive in a striagt line even on a circcuit.

I ma sure there are also other cars under 200grand that will be competitive with the c6 z in performance aspects.
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jasil
Use common sense you know what he meant.
Dude common sense has nothing to do with it. Its not about what I know or thought he meant its about what he said.

Dont think that it is my responsibility that I am supposed to read minds over a keyboard bud. It is however, his responsibilty to make sure his statements are what he meant, which from his previous statement it looks like it was. I was simply noting that he was wrong. Any questions?
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Dude common sense has nothing to do with it. Its not about what I know or thought he meant its about what he said.

Dont think that it is my responsibility that I am supposed to read minds over a keyboard bud. It is however, his responsibilty to make sure his statements are what he meant, which from his previous statement it looks like it was. I was simply noting that he was wrong. Any questions?

Yeah, I have a question...

Why are you comparing a vehicle with no body work, no interior, no glass, no electronics, no modern safety features, nothing that you would need on a day-to-day basis that weighs 1k and some change, to a fully appointed, 3000+ lb CAR. The Atom is basically a motorcycle with 4 wheels! It is not a car that you can use as a daily driver, then go to the track and run 10's in. Your talking apples to oranges comparison... do you not realize that?
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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to beat a z06 vette in the 1/4 mile .. u need bolts on evo + curt brown
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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beating a stock c6z at the 1320 wont be too difficult IMHO.

skill....it's been proven that the c6z will take the 997tt around a circuit (check 6speedonline on how the Z took TT, 996 gt2's on track days etc). the sl65 will edge it on in a straightline from a roll, but not by much. on a circuit the c6z will destroy the sl65....the sl65 weighs like 4000lbs+ IIRC

overall perforamnce on dry road i think only the Ford GT can rival/beat it...but for 30k more. it will outrun an f430, gallardo, murcielago (not the LP640) etc..it's truly crazy.

only complaint about the z06's performance i've read in reviews is that it gets a bit tricky to drive near the car's limits...some say it should have came mid/rear engined for more grip on the rear.
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dead-Man Inc
to beat a z06 vette in the 1/4 mile .. u need bolts on evo + curt brown
curt brown is the best mod a drag Evo can ever get.
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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overall perforamnce on dry road i think only the Ford GT can rival/beat it...but for 30k more...
No it can't. There are plenty of vids on the web that prove it...
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
Well if you have read this thread thoroughly it has already been answered many times over.

I think you are a are muddying up this thread with your strange comparisions. Really stick to the topic and stop trying to domminate this thread with your waste of our time info.

And BTW a bone stock TT 911 can not stay with a stock Z in a straight line or on the track and you can look that one up all over the internet. There are quite a few guys on the Corvette forums that own both and they have already comfirmed this many times. Also Corvettes run in a higher faster class than Porshce. GT1 -GT2.

Most agree the TT 911 is a better built car though but it should be at about 50k more. They are about 130k with a few options which most people get. THe 07 Z can be had for about 75k.

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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Green_Goblin
Yeah, I have a question...

Why are you comparing a vehicle with no body work, no interior, no glass, no electronics, no modern safety features, nothing that you would need on a day-to-day basis that weighs 1k and some change, to a fully appointed, 3000+ lb CAR. The Atom is basically a motorcycle with 4 wheels! It is not a car that you can use as a daily driver, then go to the track and run 10's in. Your talking apples to oranges comparison... do you not realize that?
Well your question has been answered already. It does have body panels, it has an interior, it also has a front glass shield, it also has electronics, it does have modern safety features(harnesses and tube frame and cockpit shell) thos eare modern IMHO the only thing it doesnt have is air bags and I could care less about air bags sometimes they do more damage then what they are worth. The car can be used a daily if you get it legallized which it already has.

Also whethor its apples or oranges the point is its a comparison related to someones ealier statement which was "there is no car that can rival the c6 zo6 in all performance aspects until 200k." I simply told him there is. His statement had no relavance to streetable cars, or what have you. It was a general statement and I gave him gereral answer.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WRC-GO
Put down the crack pipe, and step away from the NOS bottle...

Ain't gonna happen...

IF you spend enough to get your EVO to 600 whp, then mebbe... but the Z can spend half as much, own you, and look better in the process. Road course - no contest. EVO wouldn't even be close... As for top end runs, fuggetaboutit!
+1 on that. The new Z06s are animals. Now, I know my car is very close to stock, but I got lucky and pulled up next to a new Z06 at a light and he threw me a rev. I graciously accepted his offer, in hopes of seeing what his Z06 could do. When I launched I had him by about a car, and as I was shifting into 2nd gear, he just blew by me like I was sitting still. I mean, damn. I just got left in the dust. By about 60 mph he was probably about 2 schoolbus lengths up on me.

There's a much better chance of beating one in the 1/4 mile than outright, especially considering they top out at either 192 or 198 mph. Off the showroom floor, the Z06 will run in the high 11.70-11.80 range at over 120 mph. Not to mention, the aerodynamics come into serious play, and so does the weight (3100 lbs).

Due mainly to the aerodynamic disadvantage and the 250-300 lb weight disadvantage, bank on putting out about 525 whp just to keep side by side with one. The Z06 is putting out about 450 whp, but remember, it's lighter and the aerodynamics are better. On a top speed run, don't even think about it, because the Evo will run out of gear long before it hits 192-198 mph.

Sure, the Z06 can be beaten, but their value for the performance cannot.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Green_Goblin
No it can't. There are plenty of vids on the web that prove it...
i'm talking about track times etc....

the roll on races where the Z walks the G, the Z has minor bolt-on's. but the Z needs like 2-3 minor mods to push 550rwhp...

i've never seen/read stock Z beating stock GT yet, maybe u can enlighten me (no sarcasm here)
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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Best I've seen stock GTs go in the 1/4 is high 11's. Best I've seen stock Z06s go in the 1/4 is low 11's (10.85 with tires).

Comparing the Atom and any normal car is still ridiculous, but keep thinking it's a fair comparison...



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